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Asset Inventory, Lawyers, and AI

Unsolicited Response Podcast

Release Date: 11/15/2023

2024 Threat Report – OT Cyber Attacks with Physical Consequences show art 2024 Threat Report – OT Cyber Attacks with Physical Consequences

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Waterfall Security Solutions and ICSSTRIVE put out an annual threat report that Dale Peterson believes is the best in OT. Why? It only includes incidents that had physical consequences on systems monitored and controlled by OT.  Dale and Andrew discuss: What is in and out of scope for the report. The breakdown of the 68 incidents that occurred in 2023 by industry sector, cause, threat actor and more. The impact reporting requirements may have on these numbers in the future. What percentage of OT cyber incidents with physical consequences are made public. Ransomware on IT causing...

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State Of NERC CIP, European Update and OT Security Community show art State Of NERC CIP, European Update and OT Security Community

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Patrick Miller has OT cybersecurity experience as an asset owner, PacificCorp. As a regulator and one of the first NERC CIP auditors with WECC. As a community organizer creating and leading EnergySec and the BeerISAC. And as an entrepreneur creating and leading a number of consulting practices. He is currently the Founder of Ampyx Cyber.   In this episode Patrick and Dale discuss: Why Patrick changed the company name and selected Talinn as the location for the new European office. The major differences in approaches to OT cybersecurity and risk management between Europe and the US....

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Book Interview: Introduction To SBOM And VEX show art Book Interview: Introduction To SBOM And VEX

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S4x24 Closing Panel show art S4x24 Closing Panel

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Q1: ICS Security In Review show art Q1: ICS Security In Review

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Emma Stewart joins Dale to discuss the 3 big OT & ICS security stories from the first quarter. They end by giving their win, fail and prediction for Q1.

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S4x24 Preview show art S4x24 Preview

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Predictions Analyzed show art Predictions Analyzed

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In this solosode episode Dale reviews the status of his three predictions from the Q1, 2 and 3 quarter in review episodes and answers a listener question.

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Q4 ICS Security Quarter In Review show art Q4 ICS Security Quarter In Review

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CISA Attack Surface Scanning Service show art CISA Attack Surface Scanning Service

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Dale is joined by Steve Pozza, CISA Section Chief of Operational Resilience, and Tom Millar, CISA Branch Chief of Resilience, to discuss some of CISA's security services for asset owners. They discuss: The Internet accessible attack surface enumeration and vulnerability scanning surface. Asset owners can buy products or services to do this. Why is the government doing this? What CISA is doing with this attack surface data? How is CISA measuring the success of this service offering? Other broadly available services and tools, the cybersecurity performance goals (CPG assessment) ~500 done in...

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Engineering-Grade OT Security with Andrew Ginter show art Engineering-Grade OT Security with Andrew Ginter

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Andrew Ginter published his third book this year: . Dale interviews Andrew on the book including: Who was the target reader that Andrew wrote the book for? Do (should) professional engineers lose their licenses for poor and dangerous cybersecurity design and deployments? The use of the term engineering grade, and how he defines it. Unhackable protection and safety controls as a major part of engineering grade. Unidirectional (one-way) network devices as the only security control listed as engineering grade. Is one-way from the enterprise network to the OT network engineering grade? Given the...

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This week is a Dale Peterson solosode.

Updates and Announcements

Dale provides updates about S4x24 ticket sales and announces the Women In ICS Security program and sponsor package.

Main Topics

  1. Asset Inventory in Cybersecurity: Dale challenges the common security mantra "You can't protect what you don't know," using examples from both physical and cyber domains. He notes many of the comments on this week's article missed the main point, and he gives hints on the next two asset inventory articles.
  2. Legal and Regulatory Issues in Cybersecurity: Dale emphasizes the importance of domain expertise whether it be cybersecurity or the legal profession. He previews upcoming keynote interviews with legal experts and advises cybersecurity professionals against making legal analyses without proper expertise.

  3. Artificial Intelligence in Cybersecurity: Dale reveals that most AI submissions for S4 were broad and hand wavy. This isn't wrong, but most have heard this info by now. He then discusses the need for focusing on specific, real-world applications of AI and stresses the importance of measurable improvements in this age of experimentation.