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Balancing Privacy, Security, and Accountability with Kurt Long

Easy Prey

Release Date: 02/14/2024

Familial Identity Theft show art Familial Identity Theft

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Identity theft is usually framed as an external threat. Hackers, data breaches, anonymous criminals operating somewhere far away. This episode looks at a much harder reality to face: identity theft that happens inside families, often quietly, over many years, and without immediate detection. The damage isn’t just financial. It reshapes trust, relationships, and a person’s sense of stability long before anyone realizes what’s happening. My guest is Axton Betz-Hamilton, an associate professor of financial counseling and planning whose research focuses on familial and child identity theft....

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Exploiting Trust (Part 2) show art Exploiting Trust (Part 2)

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Security failures rarely come from cutting-edge attacks or sophisticated tools. They happen in ordinary moments when someone holds a door, follows an instruction without questioning it, or finds a workaround that makes their day easier. Those small, human decisions are often the real entry points, and they tend to compound over time. This episode picks up the second half of our conversation on exploiting trust with FC Barker, a veteran ethical hacker and physical security expert known for legally breaking into banks, government buildings, and high-security facilities around the world. With...

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Exploiting Trust (Part 1) show art Exploiting Trust (Part 1)

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Most security failures don’t start with a dramatic breach or a mysterious hacker sitting in a dark room. They usually start quietly. Someone assumes a system is locked down. Someone trusts that a door shouldn’t open, or that a machine “just works,” or that no one would ever think to look there. Over time, those small assumptions stack up, and that’s where things tend to go wrong. Today’s guest is FC Barker, a renowned ethical hacker, social engineer, and global keynote speaker with more than three decades of experience legally breaking into organizations to expose their blind...

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Surviving a Ransomware Attack show art Surviving a Ransomware Attack

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A ransomware attack doesn’t always announce itself with flashing warnings and locked screens. Sometimes it starts with a quiet system outage, a few unavailable servers, and a sinking realization days later that the threat actors were already inside. This conversation pulls back the curtain on what really happens when an organization believes it’s dealing with routine failures only to discover it’s facing a full-scale cyber extortion event. My guest today is Zachary Lewis, CIO and CISO for a Midwest university, a 40 Under 40 Business Leader, and a former Nonprofit CISO of the Year....

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Why You Fall For Scams show art Why You Fall For Scams

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Why do smart, capable people fall for scams even when the warning signs seem obvious in hindsight? In this episode, Dan Ariely joins us to examine how intuition often leads us in the wrong direction, especially under stress, uncertainty, or emotional pressure. A renowned behavioral economist, longtime professor of psychology and behavioral economics at Duke University, and bestselling author of Predictably Irrational, The Upside of Irrationality, Misbehaving, and Misbelief, Dan has spent decades studying why rational people consistently make choices that don’t serve them.  We talk about...

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Mobile Device Threats show art Mobile Device Threats

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In a world where we’re told to carry our entire lives in our pockets, we’ve reached a strange tipping point where the very devices meant to connect us have become windows into our private lives for those who wish us harm. It’s no longer a matter of looking for the "shady" corners of the internet; today, the threats come from nation-state actors, advanced AI, and even the people we think we’re hiring. We are living in an era where the most sophisticated hackers aren't just trying to break into your phone, they’re trying to move into your business by pretending to be your best...

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Past, Present, and Future of AI agents show art Past, Present, and Future of AI agents

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The intersection of AI and cybersecurity is changing faster than anyone expected, and that pace is creating both incredible innovation and brand-new risks we’re only beginning to understand. From deepfake ads that fool even seasoned security professionals to autonomous agents capable of acting on our behalf, the threat landscape looks very different than it did even a year ago. To explore what this evolution means for everyday people and for enterprises trying to keep up, I’m joined by Chris Kirschke, Field CISO at Tuskira and a security leader with more than two decades of experience...

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You Are Traceable with OSINT show art You Are Traceable with OSINT

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Publicly available data can paint a much clearer picture of our lives than most of us realize, and this episode takes a deeper look at how those tiny digital breadcrumbs like photos, records, searches, even the background of a Zoom call can be pieced together to reveal far more than we ever intended. To help break this down, I’m joined by Cynthia Hetherington, Founder and CEO of The Hetherington Group, a longtime leader in open-source intelligence. She also founded Osmosis, the global association and conference for OSINT professionals, and she oversees OSINT Academy, where her team trains...

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Anyone Could Walk In show art Anyone Could Walk In

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Sometimes we forget how much trust we place in the little things around us like a lock on a door or a badge on someone’s shirt. We see those symbols and assume everything behind them is safe, but it doesn’t always work that way. A person with enough confidence, or the right story, can slip through places we think are locked down tight, and most of us never notice it’s happening. My guest today is Deviant Ollam, and he’s one of the rare people who gets invited to break into buildings on purpose. He talks about how he fell into this unusual line of work, the odd moments that shaped his...

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The Scam You Never See Coming show art The Scam You Never See Coming

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Fraud today doesn’t feel anything like it used to. It’s not just about somebody skimming a credit card at a gas pump or stealing a check out of the mail. It has gotten personal, messy, emotional. Scammers are building relationships, earning trust, and studying the little details of our lives so they can strike when we’re tired, distracted, or dealing with something big. And honestly, most people have no idea how far it’s gone. My guest, Ian Mitchell, has spent more than 25 years fighting fraud around the world and leading teams in the financial sector. He’s the founder of The Knoble,...

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In this episode, we navigate the ever evolving landscape of messaging app dynamics, examining the challenges and opportunities in striking the right balance between preserving user privacy, ensuring robust security measures, and maintaining accountability in an ever changing digital landscape. 

Today’s guest is Kurt Long. Kurt is an entrepreneur with over 25 years of experience in starting, growing, and building Information Security and Privacy businesses. Kurt is the Executive Director of The Long Family Force for Good Foundation which focuses on supporting not-for-profits dedicated to improving the mental health of families and children. Kurt is also the Co-Founder and CEO of BUNKR.

Show Notes:

  • [1:09] - Kurt shares his background and what he does through The Long Family Force for Good Foundation and BUNKR.

  • [5:01] - He found himself interested in technology and the idea of doing something bigger than himself with a team.

  • [9:26] - Currently, Kurt’s work is directed to messaging apps.

  • [13:22] - In the early days of messaging, there was an inherent trust. We didn’t think about the bad guys yet.

  • [15:57] - Communication platforms were never intended to secure communication.

  • [17:31] - Most communication apps now do begin with good intent. Kurt describes WhatsApp as an example until it was purchased by Facebook.

  • [19:50] - We want information and access, but we want safety, too.

  • [21:38] - We have to put trust in someone to strike a balance.

  • [23:41] - The Federal Trade Commission has announced apps that don’t support legal due process and implemented a fine for use of them.

  • [25:56] - Kurt shares a true story that is a great example of inside trade problems in messaging apps.

  • [28:28] - Using secret messaging apps or apps that feature disappearing messages are hard to track. You could be affiliated with someone doing something illegal.

  • [30:29] - Privacy and security do help us retain rights we have.

  • [32:35] - Messaging issues also impact the medical industry.

  • [34:07] - Some countries have legislation that ban secret messaging apps, but they aren’t really being enforced.

  • [36:25] - BUNKR has consumers and public usage in 32 countries worldwide and is popular with families.

  • [37:52] - When companies have more control over their app, there is less criminality involved.

  • [40:02] - This service is invitation based. You cannot receive random messages from anyone you do not invite.

  • [41:55] - “The entire planet deserves to conduct their affairs with dignity at bank level security.”

  • [44:29] - Kurt leans towards following United States laws and legal action, but also has a large legal team to help guide through unusual situations.

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