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COMIC BOOKS! Join Kevin and Will Hines — two brothers, lifelong comics fans and kind of comedians — as they discuss the comics they have loved their whole lives! What we lack in accuracy we make up for in enthusiasm!

X-Men '97 Review: Preview 05/01/2024

X-Men '97 Review: Preview This is subscriber-only episode! Subscribe at screwitpodcasts.com to listen! Regular episodes back in this feed next week! --------------------------------- Kevin and Will review the first five episodes of X-Men '97, the hit new animated Marvel show. Does it hurt never having seen the original series? How about never having read any Chris Claremony Uncanny X-Men until two years ago? How about not telling each other what they think of the series before they started recording???? /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/30842278

Ultimate Milksops: Ultimate Spider-Man #6 w/ Elliott Kalan 04/24/2024

Ultimate Milksops: Ultimate Spider-Man #6 w/ Elliott Kalan In issue 6 of the Bendis/Bagley run, we get to see Actual Ultimate Spider-Man -- properly costumed, fighting bad guys and everything! Does this change Kevin's mind about the pace of the comic? You'll have to listen to find out! (hint: not really!) Joining us for this episode is guest Elliott Kalan (former Daily Show head writer, co-host of The Flop House podcast). Elliott is a passionate Spider-Man fan and a fan of this podcast! Hey, this guy is pretty smart! Elliott also writes comics. He tells us how he made the leap (side-step? pivot?) from writing for the Daily Show to also writing some Marvel comics. AND he tells us about his new comics series Hercules! It's continuing the adventures of the Disney movie version of Hercules. This is going to be just as great as the comics he wrote previously: Disney Villains: Hades! It's out this week and we would all love it if you bought it. Hercules comics: https://www.dynamite.com/disney/ The Flop House podcast: ----------------------- Subscribe to our monthly bonus episodes or join our chat server: /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/30842573

Ultimate Milksops - Ultimate Spider-Man #5 w/ James III 04/17/2024

Ultimate Milksops - Ultimate Spider-Man #5 w/ James III The Milksops welcome TV writer / podcaster / comics creator James III to the show! You may know James as a co-creator / co-star of the Netflix sketch show The Astronomy Club, or from his podcast Black Men Can't Jump In Hollywood. Friends from the UCB Theatre in NYC, the Milksops and James dive into another issue of the Bendis/Bagley run of Ultimate Spider-Man. This is issue #5, which takes place immediately after the death of Uncle Ben. It's a terrific issue which puts all of the strengths of this run (emotional nuance, going slow, emotional art) to great effect. We also talk to James about how he became a comics fan. Even though he started reading after he was in his 20s, he made up for lost time, going through a ton of issues. We also talk about his comic Junior! He's doing a Kickstarter to fund another batch of issues and if you'd like you can support it below. All things James III: https://www.ruleof3inc.com/ James III's Kickstarter for Junior: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ruleof3comics/junior-2-5-daddy-issues/ /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/30821403

Ultimate Milksops: Ultimate Spider-Man #4 04/10/2024

Ultimate Milksops: Ultimate Spider-Man #4 Episode 273 - Continuing the Bendis/Bagley run -- we reach the big moment. Peter lets a criminal, who he easily could have stopped, run past. And his family pays a huge price. But before that, we get the Bendis/Bagley nuanced look at Peter's extended world. We see Kong extend the hand of friendship. We see Liz Allen make a move on Peter, an MJ storm off. We see a revamped version of the famous "with great power must come great responsibility speech." And we see police cars and ambulence gathered outside the Parker home. Loose Screws: we talk the A24 horror movie "Talk To Me" and the HBO series "Peacemaker." Email us at [email protected] with your thoughts. Consider joining our subscriber level at screwitpodcasts.com. Join our free Discord, invite link is at screwitpodcasts.com /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/30590948

Ultimate Milksops: Ultimate Spider-Man #3 03/27/2024

Ultimate Milksops: Ultimate Spider-Man #3 The Milksops continue their examination of Bendis/Bagley's Ultimate Spider-Man! Kevin likes it more on this reading, but is still frustrated by the slow pace. Will remains is moved by the nuanced characters. In this issue, Peter begins his short career as a masked wrestler, and also becomes a star of the high school basketball team. In our world famous loose screws segment, Kevin talks about the Aquaman movie sequel. Does Kevin like it, or not? (Spoiler: no!) /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/30513243

Ultimate Milksops: Ultimate Spider-Man #2 03/20/2024

Ultimate Milksops: Ultimate Spider-Man #2 We keep going through this legendary run by Brian Michael Bendis and Mark Bagley. Will continues to like it, Kevin continues to think it's too slow. We both agree the "homage" to Ferris Bueller at the top (the boring professor who goes "voodoo economics") is... weird. We discuss the effects of getting to know Uncle Ben more. We observe how obvious it must be to Peter's classmates that he has supernatural powers. We see Peter's anger boiling up. Email us at [email protected] with your thoughts. Consider joining our subscriber level at screwitpodcasts.com Join our free Discord chat service -- invite link at screwitpodcasts.com /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/30361048

Ultimate Milksops: Ultimate Spider-Man #1 03/13/2024

Ultimate Milksops: Ultimate Spider-Man #1 We get into one of the most popular runs on a superhero comic ever: Ultimate Spider-Man by Brian Michael Bendis and Mark Bagley. An attempt to win over new audiences, this was a rebooted Spider-Man without any history or previous continuity. It was a commercial and critical smash! Kevin never took to the slow pace of the plot, and doesn't think the Bendis-style dialogue is worth it, though he admits that it's well crafted and was certainly a hit. Will is taken with the emotional nuance of the characters, and the lack of other superheroes. Email us at [email protected] with your thoughts. Consider joining our subscriber level at screwitpodcasts.com. Join our free Discord, invite link is at screwitpodcasts.com /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/30316878

Cosmic Rays and Correspondence - FF 277 02/28/2024

Cosmic Rays and Correspondence - FF 277 Two stories in one! The top half of each page details the return of Ben Grimm, and an almost-but-not-quite battle against the Dire Wraiths (who?) And the bottom half has Reed, Sue and Franklin in hell! Which is pretty fun! Then we read a bunch of mail, which Kevin has organized by THEME! Join our subscriber level for bonus eps (soon) - https://www.screwitpodcasts.com/ /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/30091988

Cosmic Rays and Correspondence - FF 274-276 02/21/2024

Cosmic Rays and Correspondence - FF 274-276 We cover three more issues of John Byrne's run on FF: A check-on on The Thing while he's on the Secret Wars planet, a story of a tabloid getting a hold of naked photos of She-Hulk, and the start of a Mephisto story where Reed and Sue go to an unnamed Hell! We also talk about the recently announced FF movie casting. /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/30038473

Cosmic Rays and Correspondence - FF 272-273 02/14/2024

Cosmic Rays and Correspondence - FF 272-273 We pick right up where we left off with the FF going.. back in time! Wait, not, they are going SIDEWAYS in dimensions, but to the SAME TIME! A time where... the dark ages never happened, so society got very advanced! But then blew themsleves up so they are not! Wait, no they PARTLY are advanced because Reed's science genius dad has been here. Whatever. We get into it! We now have subscriber-only eps! See screwitpodcasts.com for more details! And we talk about this in the episode. Discounts for our subscriber eps: legacymonth - 20% off monthly plan legacyyear - 20% off yearly plan /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/29935803

Gabbin' 'Bout Giffen: Trencher 02/07/2024

Gabbin' 'Bout Giffen: Trencher We close out our season on writer/artist Keith Giffen with a look at another of his creator-owned series: Trencher. Trencher is another crack of the "Lobo" type -- a hyperviolent cynical tough guy who takes missions in which he has to kill lots of people. Trencher is less of a satire than Lobo -- and the world is more specific. He is a reincarnated soul who must hunt down other reincarnated souls. A Blade Runner of reincarnated people. And his targets tend to be ludicrous: a guy whose super power is controlling his nose hairs, someone who can vomit with pinpoint accuracy, and Elvis Presley split into four bodies (a la Superman, after his early 90s "death.") HIs art is different yet AGAIN -- looking like a combination of late 80s Giffen and Geoff Darrow. A fun, specific biting series that deserved more time -- a fitting end to our study of a great storyteller. /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/29710258

Gabbin' 'Bout Giffen: The Great Darkness Saga 01/31/2024

Gabbin' 'Bout Giffen: The Great Darkness Saga We go back towards the beginning of Keith Giffen's career, when he was "just" an artist. Specifically we examine his work with writer Paul Levitz on the 1983 Legion of Super-Heroes story "The Great Darkness Saga." This 5-issue story showed The Legion facing super powerful "shadow villains" who seemed to be clones of people from the distrant past. When it's revealed to be Darkseid --- it was one of the first times a character from Jack Kirby's New Gods came into the DC proper in a major way. The story was also epic in scope, had huge surprises and full of great character moments. Though it's more traditional than much of Giffen's later work, it's masterfully done. We assume Giffen was helping with the plotting here (he would soon be credited as a co-plotter on upcoming issues). We can see Keith learning lessons he would apply in the Annihilation mini-seres that we covered two episodes ago. His art is very traditional in this story, though we see a few glimpses of the abstract experimental style that he would adopt in a few years. /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/29710028

Gabbin' 'Bout Giffen: Hero Squared (w J.M. DeMatteis) 01/24/2024

Gabbin' 'Bout Giffen: Hero Squared (w J.M. DeMatteis) We continue our Keith Giffen coverage with a look at the creator-owner property he did in the 2000s, Hero Squared. Keith did this with his Justice League collaborator J.M. DeMatteis. J.M. was kind enough to be on this episode! We ask J.M. about Keith in general, his collaboration with Keith and then we get into the series Hero Squared. Hero Squared is the story of Milo Stone, an unproductive aspiring filmmaker who learns that his alternate universe self is a superhero. As the series progresses, the characters -- the two Milos -- talk argue and cooperate with each other as they become friends. There's lots of humor, action and commentary on the superhero genre as we go. And this was long before multiverse fever ran through the comics industry! /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/29485153

Gabbin' 'Bout Giffen: Annihilation 01/17/2024

Gabbin' 'Bout Giffen: Annihilation Keith Giffen does mainstream crossover event, and does it well. Here we cover the 2006 epic war story that is Annihilation. The brainchild of editor Andy Schmidt along with Giffen, this story features the "cosmic characters" in the Marvel lineup. Galactus and Silver Surfer? You know it. Thanos. Of course. Rohan? Yep. And a star turn for the main villain, who is not much of a surprise when you think about the title of this series. This series also leads very directly to the creation of the modern Guardians of the Galaxy. But back to cosmic folks: Giffen's writing is fun and crisp and tells an epic tale. But for the real gem, we suggest the Drax mini-series that preceded the main event. /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/29484648

Gabbin' 'Bout Giffen: The Heckler 01/10/2024

Gabbin' 'Bout Giffen: The Heckler What if a superhero acted mostly like Bugs Bunny? We now take you to another Milksop favorite: The Heckler. Though it was cancelled after only six issues because of low sales, The Heckler has always been a beloved cult favorite, espeically for fans of Giffen. Kevin has loved this series since it first came out! Will didn't read it until after Kevin raved about it for the 100th time or so, but he also respects it. The Heckler is a superhero with no specific powers, origin story or explanation. What we are told is he is the owner of a diner in Delta City, who is tired of the various mob gangs running his town. There is humor in this story, a remarkably rich world, a demanding narrative style and generous helpings of meta jokes. The Milksops think Keith had Steve Ditko on his mind with The Heckler, but they do tend to think that about everyone. Join us for this deep dive into a commercial flop, critical darling - The Heckler! /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/29362803

Milksops Holiday Episode: Watching Batman Movies 01/03/2024

Milksops Holiday Episode: Watching Batman Movies The THREE Milksop brothers (Will, Kevin and Brian) are home for the holidays and thus record an ep in person. They have a tradition of watching Batman movies together, which sprung out of their shared beloved experience of seeing the 1989 Tim Burton movie together on opening night in Danbury CT. Listen as we reminisce about lots of brother-bonding movie watching! Somehow we make a lot of Rodney Dangerfield references in this ep and they are: not relevant! /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/29220123

Gabbin' 'Bout Giffen: Lobo #1-4 12/27/2023

Gabbin' 'Bout Giffen: Lobo #1-4 Part ultraviolent anti hero, part parody of ultraviolent anti hero, Lobo was a phenomenon. Originally a side character in the Omega Men, this creation of Keith Giffen went on to become one of the more recognizable characters in the DC universe. In the 90s, he led his own books and made appearances everywhere. He even showed up in the kid-friendly tv show The Adventures of Superman, which is sort of like the gang from Clockwork Orange showing up in Scooby-Doo. We look at the four issue self-titled mini-series from the 1990s. We like him, and appreciate that even this mainstream hit (kinda) has lots of Giffen weirdness and demanding story wrapped around him. Email us at and make sure to join the #screwitinstapush /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/29219938

Gabbin' 'Bout Giffen: Legion Five Years Later 12/20/2023

Gabbin' 'Bout Giffen: Legion Five Years Later We continue looking at the career of writer/artist Keith Giffen. This week we look at his "Legion of Super-Heroes: Five Years Later" story. Starting from their creation in the late 1950s, the Legion of Super Heroes stories were sunny and optimistic. After all, these were teen heroes in the future who had been inspired by the (relative to their time) ancient story of Superman. Giffen had even been an artist and sometimes plotter of a run on this title in the early 1980s. But in 1989, Giffen led the characters into a big tonal shift. "Five Years Later" sees the team broken up, demoralized, often refusing their superhero names. The world has become dystopian, with an evil police state running things. A huge shift, and a fascinating and great story. We cover the first issue of this run. /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/29143288

Gabbin' 'Bout Giffen: Ambush Bug (1985 mini-series) 12/13/2023

Gabbin' 'Bout Giffen: Ambush Bug (1985 mini-series) We begin our examination of acclaimed comics writer/artist Keith Giffen. Perhaps most famous as a co-creator of the 1980s run of Justice League (the "B players" era), Giffen also either created or massively influenced: Lobo, Legion of Super Heroes, Rocket Raccoon (and kinda sorta Guardians of the Galaxy), the modern Blue Beetle and much more. This episode, we're looking at Ambush Bug. Specifically a 4 issue mini series that came out in 1985. The Bug knew he was in a comic, made very inside baseball references to the comics industry, and was a hit with the young Milksops. Ambush Bug stories aren't just funny, they are ambitious comics that jump around different genres, skip around in time and space, refuse to hold the reader's hand --- all the while being genuinely funny. The Bug brought out the maverick in Giffen, and this mini series is a genuine joy. Email us at /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/29004608

Spider-Man 2 Video Game Discussion 11/29/2023

Spider-Man 2 Video Game Discussion THWIP! We go deep -- too deep? -- on the new Spider-Man 2 video game. The Milksops were big fans of the first one. In fact, they each bought Playstations in 2018 just so they could play it! They generally like the new one a lot. But there are shortcomings that kind of HAVE to come with the sequel --- the great stuff isn't new anymore. But there's also lots of new fun stuff. Highlights: playing as Venom, some genuinely suspenseful story moments, a few great Miles hero moments and a surprisingly moving return of the pigeon-loving Spider-friend Howard. /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/28799268

Loose Screws Ep: Astro City's "Dark Age," The Marvels and Monarch 11/22/2023

Loose Screws Ep: Astro City's "Dark Age," The Marvels and Monarch A special bonus ep, kind of, which is JUST the "loose screws" segment. This was recorded for next week's ep (in which re review the Spider-Man 2 video game), but we decided it was TOO long and hence you're getting it this week. Will talks about the "Dark Age" storyline from the comic Astro City. Kevin discusses the recent MCU film The Marvels and the Apple+ TV show Monarch. See you next ep! email us at [email protected] /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/28744268

Cosmic Rays and Correspondence - FF 271 11/15/2023

Cosmic Rays and Correspondence - FF 271 FF 271 (which came out in the summer of 1984) is a hodge-podge of cool little stories. We've got a glimpse of the Fantastic Four in "family mode" as they celebrate Reed's unnamed (but 40th) birthday, then a flashback to a pre-FF adventure done very much in the style of pre-Marvel Kirby art, and finally a visit to Reed's childhood... estate? Yes, Reed was not just a Richards but also Rich. And everything has been going just totally normally with his family's butler and wife except for the ghosts, of course. THE GHOSTS?!?!?! And that's where we leave it until next ish. The Milksops announce they'll be doing a season on Keith Giffen next. Also, this is episode 255, which in hexadecimal is ... FF! Pretty cool, right? I mean, as cool as hexadecimal numbers can be. Our email address is /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/28608158

Cosmic Rays and Correspondence- - FF 269-270 11/08/2023

Cosmic Rays and Correspondence- - FF 269-270 What do you do with a problem like Terminus? Well, you treat him like a mini Galactus, because that's kinda what he is. The FF head out to the Southwest US where Terminus, a big alien in planet-devouring armor, has landed. Luckily Reed has invented something which he spent 2 pages explaining to us towards the start of the story. We also get: Sue working through depression, She-Hulk flirting with Wyatt Wingfoot, and (gasp) Johnny falling in love with Alicia. All done with the as-usual stellar art and storytelling from artist/writer Jonn Byrne. We also go through some fun email! That's from YOU guys! Email us at [email protected] /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/28541549

Hall of Milksops - JLA Earth 2 11/01/2023

Hall of Milksops - JLA Earth 2 We close out our coverage of the terrific Grant Morrison JLA run with this adventure that was released as its own graphic novel: JLA Earth 2. Done by Morrison and Frank Quitely -- who would later do the sublime All-Star Superman series -- this story is about an alternate world where the JLA is evil (the Crime Syndicate of America) and Lex Luthor is good! CSA is not a Morrison invention -- it goes back to 1964 when Gardner Fox created them during the original run of JLA stories. But here we get a Morrison-y twist: in the CSA's world, evil ALWAYS WINS. So how do you win in such a world? You'll have to read to find out. Or listen to our episode. Kevin thinks Will hates this story, but it's just that Will is embarrassed at his poor ability to recap! /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/28485431

Hall of Milksops - JLA World War III (34, 36-41) 10/25/2023

Hall of Milksops - JLA World War III (34, 36-41) World War III! We've got nuclear bombs, some New Gods (and their dogs), angels, huge eye balls, Lex Luthor, some alternate dimensional space, Batman getting his revenge on Promethus, the end of Wonder World (a place we had barely heard of), the return of the Shaggy Man (gone for almost 3 issues!) and Superman kissing Huntress, kind of. It's also the final Grant Morrison arc from the JLA title that we're covering (though we are doing a few special issues next ep). Kevin feels there are too many characters to really feel any of them. Will thinks the dazzling plot is enough. Overall, we like it better than the genie/JSA story but wish it was a bit less crowded. We also talk about the new Spider-Man 2 video game for Playstation 5 for half an hour. Too much? /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/28417646

Hall of Milksops - JLA Shaggy Man (25, 26) + JLA/JSA (28-31) 10/18/2023

Hall of Milksops - JLA Shaggy Man (25, 26) + JLA/JSA (28-31) We're back on the Grant Morrison JLA run which means we are back to COMPLICATED RECAPS. This time we have a relatively simple 2 issue story of the JLA vs a corrupt general and his Ultramarines! There's only like 6 new characters in this, so --- not too complex! But whoops then we have the 4 part story "Crisis TIme Five." In this story, there is an invasion from the fifth dimension which somehow leads to the JLA teaming up with their older Golden Age counterparts the Justice Society of America. You've got a 2-dimensional Shazam and Green Lantern arguing in a 5-D courtroom, and also Zauriel the JLA Angel speeding up time for a tiny civilzation so that he can free the Spectre. Also: robot mobsters, a couple of genies, alternate timeline JLA people, Superman getting knocked out, talking banks (like, the building) and I think a little of the New Gods too. Standard fare Morrison! /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/28338995

Episode 250: A Slapdash Affair 10/04/2023

Episode 250: A Slapdash Affair The Milksops realize that it's episode 250 and they should do something special. So we take a break from JLA and do these things: read promotional blurbs suggested by our listeners, force Kevin to answer trivia, go over an old collection of "imaginary" Superman stories from our childhood, and remember our favorite moments of the first 250 episodes. Also because we are dumb we thought it was 200 episodes at the time we recorded it, but as we explain in the cold open it really truly is 250, and yes that's confusing and we're sorry, except that it's funny, so we're not TOO sorry. /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/28196264

Hall of Milksops - JLA 16,17,22,23 - Prometheus, Sandman 09/27/2023

Hall of Milksops - JLA 16,17,22,23 - Prometheus, Sandman Two relatively "simple" stories are up next for the Grant Morrison JLA run. First we get new supervillain Prometheus -- a sort of anti-batman, whose criminal parents were gunned down by police -- invading the JLA headquarters. He makes quick work of the JLA before suddenly becoming stupid and then losing immediately. Then we have a two part story where the Lord of Dreams, Sandman, needs help from the JLA to stop the world from falling asleep! You think he'd like that. We also read some email before announcing that we are almost up to episode 250! /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/28150307

Hall of Milksops - JLA #10-15 - "Rock of Ages" 09/20/2023

Hall of Milksops - JLA #10-15 - "Rock of Ages" Plot complexity level: you have been MORRISSONED. The issues remain extremely fun but the story becomes very hard to summarize. Unless you keep it simple like this: Lex Luthor finds a magic crystal to destroy the JLA, but instead lets an alien enslave Earth, until the good guys use time travel to undo everything. Except add in: hard light holograms, New Gods technology so advanced it ruins your mind, cosmic beings at the edge of the universe waiting for the battle at the end of time, Future Batman getting killed by Future Darkseid (spoiler) (kind of) and the JLA disbanding for almost no reason. But it's fun! Will re-caps this in a terse 35 minutes! __ SHOW INFORMATION Twitter: Instagram: Email: [email protected] Subscribe: Subscribe: /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/28147331

Hall of Milksops 2 - JLA #5-9, Secret Files #1 09/13/2023

Hall of Milksops 2 - JLA #5-9, Secret Files #1 We're gonna rock down to... electric Superman?!!! Yes, Electric Superman has entered the chat. So has Tomorrow Girl, a few angels from Actual Heaven, Connor Hawke (son of original Green Arrow) and Starro. We cover a lot in this segment! We talk about how Superman is still Superman, even with new powers. We talk about how the "Green Arrow vs Overpowered Villain" story is still good in its own right even though it seems pretty similar to a classic Superman tale. And we talk just about how much we are enjoying the many moments of grand superheroism! __ SHOW INFORMATION Twitter: Instagram: Email: [email protected] Subscribe: Subscribe: /episode/index/show/f5490302-f982-4bea-a97a-03a4c632b515/id/28147334

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