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The Cabana Sessions

Unsolicited Response Podcast

Release Date: 02/25/2020

July - ICS Security Month In Review show art July - ICS Security Month In Review

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Rob Caldwell joins Dale to discuss the 2 big stories of the month, and then the give their Win and Fail for the month, and finish with a bold prediction.

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Peter Singer - Author of Burn In: A Novel About The Real Robotic Revolution show art Peter Singer - Author of Burn In: A Novel About The Real Robotic Revolution

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P.W. Singer and August Cole recently published their second work of fiction - Burn In: A Novel About The Real Robotic Revolution. While it is a fiction, it uses over 300 examples of what might happen as robotics and revolution change the world over the next two decades.

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June - ICS Security Month In Review show art June - ICS Security Month In Review

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Michael Toecker joins Dale to discuss the 3 big stories of the month, and then the give their Win and Fail for the month, and finish with a bold prediction.

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Building & Using Digital Twins show art Building & Using Digital Twins

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The concept and utility of a digital twin is easy to grasp, but how do you build a digital twin? How much does it cost? How long does it take? Are we going to see digital twins in all sectors? Are all digital twins the same. I ask Mike Aylott of KBC these and other digital twin questions.

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Matt Wyckhouse: Testing ICS Firmware Security & Supply Chains show art Matt Wyckhouse: Testing ICS Firmware Security & Supply Chains

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This week's episode is my interview with Matt Wyckhouse, founder and CEO of Finite State. We talk about testing ICS firmware, what asset owners do with the results, and business models for providing this info. Plus startup life, raising money and working with VC's.

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May: ICS Security Month In Review show art May: ICS Security Month In Review

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I begin with a brief discussion of the George Floyd murder and not enough. While not ICS security, it is impossible to review the month of May without discussing this. Then at 7:15 Patrick Miller joins me to discuss the Executive Order, the rumored supply chain manipulation of a transformer, COVID impact on the ICS security community, and ICS ATT&CK evaluations. We finish with Wins and Fails from the month and a Bold Prediction.

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COVID-19 Impact In ICS Security show art COVID-19 Impact In ICS Security

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This is a shorter solo-sode rather than the typical interview format. I wanted to hold off on making any COVID-19 analysis or comments until the rawness and shock of the event had subsided somewhat. In this episode I discuss how COVID-19 affects:

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S4x20 Closing Panel show art S4x20 Closing Panel

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Ralph Langner of Langner, Inc. and Zach Tudor of INL join me on the S4x20 Closing Panel. This is always one of the most fun and highly rated session at S4.

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Interview with Inventor & Legend Ed Schweitzer show art Interview with Inventor & Legend Ed Schweitzer

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This podcast is the audio from my S4x20 Main Stage interview with electric sector and ICS legend Ed Schweitzer. He was the perfect person to interview related to the event theme: Create The Future in OT and ICS security. It's a wide ranging and fun interview. (Ed has a great sense of humor).

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Interview with Bryan Owen of OSIsoft show art Interview with Bryan Owen of OSIsoft

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Bryan and I were scheduled to go skiing prior to ICSJWG in Park City. With that squashed we decided to record a podcast instead. Bryan and I begin with what winning the Michael J. Assante Lifetime Achievement award meant to him. Then we discuss the challenge and methods in which an ICS product vendor tries to develop and deploy a secure solution.

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More Episodes

I spoke with two Digital Bond alumni and Lord Remorin at the S4x20 Cabana Sessions about a wide ranging set of technical topics.

Reid Wightman, Principal Vulnerability Analyst at Dragos

  • What he found interesting as an attendee, not running the CTF, at S4x20?
  • Jake Brodsky's Session: Secure Coding Practices for PLCs
  • The Pwn2Own competitors not being ICS regulars and future of Pwn2Own in ICS
  • Reid's background at SEL and with Ed Schweitzer prior to Digital Bond
  • How much gear Reid has in his basement?
  • Will Reid run an ICS CTF in the future?

Stephen Hilt and Lord Remorin of Trend Micro (at 10:00)

  • How they built the ICS Factory Honeynet to be highly realistic including the logic, public presence, employees and more
  • Did they ever have an attacker who understood ICS?
  • Was Mike an homage to Michael Toecker?
  • Did Shodan find their honeynet? Did they label it a honeypot?
  • What is the future of this or similar ICS honeynets at Trend Micro?

Links

Dale's ICS Security Friday News & Notes

Trend Micro's Factory ICS Honeynet Whitepaper