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90. Denise Saul - Freeing the Poem

The Two Of Us

Release Date: 03/03/2021

126. Jasmine Cooray - Loss and Grief and Love show art 126. Jasmine Cooray - Loss and Grief and Love

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Jasmine reads from her new poetry collection published by . We had a deep and inspiring conversation about the role writing and reading played in her life as a child and teenager. She talks about her work as a psychotherapist and why she sees the sessions she has with her clients as a freeform improvised poem. Jasmine reads some beautiful poems from her book, and talks about her current daily poetry practice and how it relates to play.   Bio: Jasmine Cooray is a poet, psychotherapist and facilitator. After spending her 20s oversharing on London’s poetry circuit, she had the...

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125. Destiny Adeyemi - The Vulnerability and Joy of Artistry show art 125. Destiny Adeyemi - The Vulnerability and Joy of Artistry

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Destiny shares their poetry, their experience of being a model, a poet, and their non-binary identity. We share mental health toolkits and more.  Find Destiny on . Show host - Alba Frederick  Music and production : Gavin O’Brien - 

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124. Finding my Voice - Ronali Collings  show art 124. Finding my Voice - Ronali Collings

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Novelist talks about her new book We talk about the inspiration for the novel - development of character, the value and enjoyment to be gleaned from commercial fiction. Ronali talks about the changes in her life that led to her becoming a published writer and discussed why as a women of colour it is so important to tell multiple stories rather than stick to one perceived and narrow narrative. We also chatted about building confidence and the ability to take constructive constriction to better our work.  Ronali on   Ronali on   CW: Fertility treatment Show host - Naomi Woddis...

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123. Elijah Kellman - Putting Trust in the Silence show art 123. Elijah Kellman - Putting Trust in the Silence

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Naomi has an in-depth conversation with Elijah Kellman who has a background in health psychology and is currently working in social prescribing. There’s so much to enjoy and learn in this interview including the different experiences of health provision (especially mental health provision), patient and health practitioner interaction, and the acknowledgement of invisible power.   Elijah talks about death, grief and the possibility of reframing difficult experiences. He shares his wisdom about the heightened emotional state providing illumination, and the value of...

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122. Gosia Miernik - The Value of Lived Experience show art 122. Gosia Miernik - The Value of Lived Experience

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Psychotherapist, artist and lifelong learner  talks about the value of lived experience. In this fascinating discussion we talk about family constellations and what can be learnt from inherited family patterns. She shares her journey to becoming a psychotherapist and how art-making can be a process of revelation. Show host - Naomi Woddis Music and production : Gavin O’Brien - 

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121. Heidi Spring - Making magic & Celebrating life  show art 121. Heidi Spring - Making magic & Celebrating life

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Painter, maker and business owner Heidi Spring talks about how she makes her intricate paintings, creates magic through installing decor for events, the joy and mindfulness in making, as well as how she motivates herself in the trickier moments. Heidi Spring's and UpCycle Deco on and .  Show host - Alba Frederick  Music and production : Gavin O’Brien - 

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120. Annie Brechin - You Can Be Loved  show art 120. Annie Brechin - You Can Be Loved

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In a fascinating conversation poet and bell-ringer and Naomi talk about prayer, fidelity, bell-ringing, the church and her management of long term depression. In this unflinching and honest interview Annie opens up about her childhood experience of mental health. She reads from her new book ‘The Mouth of Eulalie’ and talks about exploring eco-poetics. You can buy Annie's book .  Find Annie on and   Show host - Naomi Woddis  Music and production : Gavin O’Brien - 

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119. Josh Hutton - Finding Peace in a Frantic World  show art 119. Josh Hutton - Finding Peace in a Frantic World

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Audio engineer and electronic music producer Josh Hutton AKA ‘Patient Zero’ talks openly about the recent loss of a mutual friend, loneliness, mindfulness, finding therapy, moving through unhealthy habits and making electronic music.   Find Josh’s EP . Josh on Show host - Alba Frederick   Music : Gavin O’Brien - 

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118. Zara Carpenter - The Courage to be Myself show art 118. Zara Carpenter - The Courage to be Myself

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In a fascinating interview artist, curator and workshop facilitator talks about using colour for emotional healing, courage and protection. Zara has fibromyalgia and talks about living with the unpredictability of a chronic pain condition, the frustration and anger that goes with it and how making work has helped hugely in managing this pain.  Zara on instagram Show host - Naomi Woddis  Music : Gavin O’Brien -   

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117. Lola Jagun - The Joy of Variety show art 117. Lola Jagun - The Joy of Variety

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Viral comedian, content creator, writer and actor talks about her journey into being a full-time creative. We talk about the joy and challenges of her work and how she got an agent. We discuss 'the slap', the importance of being kind, and her part in . Find Lola on  and Show host - Alba Frederick  Originally broadcast on  Music : Gavin O’Brien -   

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Poet Denise Saul talks about being a carer for her late mother who had aphasia, and the poetry that arose from their shared experience of this. She shares some profound new work from her forthcoming collection.

CW: Death of a parent

Denise Saul on Twitter

Show host - Naomi Woddis

Originally broadcast on Reel Rebels Radio

Music - Hoh Harph by Lobo Loco on Free Music Archive