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The Cartag Story: Safe Enough to Stay

Colorado Psychedelic Church Podcast

Release Date: 04/18/2026

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Colorado Psychedelic Church Podcast

In this sermon, Teopixqui Dez opens with gratitude for the community and reminds everyone that community does not happen passively… it happens when people choose to show up, step out of isolation, and create the “divine us” together. Dez shares excitement about the church’s upcoming new space, with a planned grand opening around June 1st, possible pre-opening lounge night, updates coming to the website, and opportunities for the congregation to help prepare the building. The heart of the sermon focuses on PACK Life, beginning with the first letter: Protection. Dez explains that...

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Teopixqui Dez and Threadkeeper Sara sit down in the communal space while folding educational pamphlets and talk candidly about something every real community eventually faces… criticism, misunderstanding, and the need to protect what’s being built. What starts as a conversation about online reviews turns into a bigger reflection on boundaries, generosity, access, and the difference between a movement built on healing and an industry built on profit. Dez and Sara speak openly about a hostile online comment that showed up in response to one of the church’s public event posts, and use it as...

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Teopixqui Dez opens by grounding the community in gratitude, momentum, and the ongoing growth of the Colorado Psychedelic Church. As the church moves closer to major expansion, Dez reminds the congregation that community is not passive… it is built through action, care, and shared responsibility. This sermon continues the teaching series on the Seven Psyches, the personality traits that allow a community to flourish across time… from the first pack to the future. Bondsmith Rich speaks on the Steward, the one who tends to the rhythms, needs, and wellness of the community. Drawing from...

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Oracle Richard and Threadkeeper Sarah sit down for a deeply personal conversation about growing up in two very different Christian traditions… Sarah in a culturally and religiously Catholic world on the East Coast, and Richard in a homeschooled evangelical Pentecostal environment that functioned almost like a complete social bubble. What unfolds is a thoughtful, funny, and at times heavy reflection on what it means to be shaped by religion long before you ever choose it for yourself. They talk about the stark differences between Catholicism and Protestant evangelicalism… from authority,...

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Sermon: The Guardian’s Call and the Weaver’s Truth show art Sermon: The Guardian’s Call and the Weaver’s Truth

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Community doesn’t sustain itself… people do. In this week’s continuation of the Seven Psyches series, Teopixqui Dez opens with powerful updates—celebrating a packed 420 event and sharing momentum toward a new, larger church space—before turning the focus to two essential roles within any thriving community. Through the voices of clergy: Farmacist Castle explores the Guardian — the one who protects, supports, and steps in when harm is near… not always through confrontation, but through presence, awareness, and action when it matters most. Bahn Fasa Maya brings forward the Weaver...

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After speaking at PsyCon in Denver, Teopixqui Dez brings that message back home and expands on a subject that sits at the heart of the Colorado Psychedelic Church… how do we build modern spirituality around timeless entheogens and sacred compounds in a way that is sincere, ethical, and healing? This talk explores the idea of perennialism… the belief that the world’s religions and spiritual traditions share recurring universal truths. From there, Teopixqui Dez walks through what many traditions already seem to agree on: that we are more than our bodies… that these medicines are not...

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What does a healthy community actually require to survive… not just in theory, but in real life? In this message, Teopixqui Dez continues the series on The Seven Psyches… the core personality archetypes that allow any community to function, grow, and protect itself. After introducing the Sojourner last week, this gathering expands into two more essential roles: The Sage — the one who listens, studies, and translates truth across many “languages” of understanding The Warden — the one who recognizes harm and stands against it… protecting the community from malice Through...

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What does it look like to go from agoraphobia… panic attacks… and years inside the mental health system… …to finding a place where you feel safe enough to stay? In this conversation, Oracle Richard sits down with community member Cartag, whose journey into the Colorado Psychedelic Church began not with curiosity… …but necessity. After years of struggling with treatment-resistant depression, anxiety, and what he later recognized as autistic burnout, Cartag reached a point where something had to change. Traditional approaches weren’t working. Progress had stalled. So he searched....

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What does it take to build a community that can hold you steady when the world feels like it’s burning down? In this message, Teopixqui Dez opens a new monthly theme centered on the Seven Psyches… recurring roles that help real community thrive. The first of those is the Sojourner: the person who goes out, has the experience, finds the lesson, and brings that wisdom back for the benefit of others. Drawing from psychology, spirituality, community-building, and lived experience, Teopixqui Dez explores what it means to become someone who doesn’t just survive hard lessons… but transforms...

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What happens when someone who identifies as an atheist… and someone who leads a psychedelic church… sit down and actually listen to each other? In this conversation, ThreadKeeper Sarah is joined by community member Rob K., who shares his journey from isolation, anxiety, and persistent shame… into something quieter, lighter, and more grounded. Before finding the Colorado Psychedelic Church, Rob describes living in a constant mental loop — replaying guilt, anticipating conflict, and feeling stuck in what he calls “ruts” of thought. Despite years of self-study and introspection,...

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What does it look like to go from agoraphobia… panic attacks… and years inside the mental health system…

…to finding a place where you feel safe enough to stay?

In this conversation, Oracle Richard sits down with community member Cartag, whose journey into the Colorado Psychedelic Church began not with curiosity…

…but necessity.

After years of struggling with treatment-resistant depression, anxiety, and what he later recognized as autistic burnout, Cartag reached a point where something had to change. Traditional approaches weren’t working. Progress had stalled.

So he searched.

What he found was a community — not built on dogma or pressure — but on acceptance, accessibility, and shared healing.

Cartag shares what it was like to walk through the doors for the first time… physically shaking from anxiety… unsure of what he had just stepped into.

And what happened next changed everything.

From a powerful first DMT experience where he connected with his younger self…

to slowly learning he didn’t need to stay in a constant state of defense…

…to something as simple — and profound — as realizing:

he didn’t need to keep his shoes by the door anymore.

This conversation isn’t just about psychedelics.

It’s about:

  • feeling safe in your own body

  • finding people who meet you where you are

  • and rediscovering what “community” actually means

Even for someone who never thought they’d be part of a “church.”

 


⏱ Timeline of Topics

00:01 – Introduction

Richard introduces Cartag and sets the stage

00:30 – Leaving Kansas & Starting Over

Loss, job changes, and moving to Colorado

01:30 – Career & Mental Health Journey

Call center problem-solving → peer support specialist

Autistic burnout and repeated breakdowns

02:30 – Being Replaced by AI

Career disruption and transition into new paths

03:30 – Childhood & Neurodivergence

Small-town upbringing

Pressure, masking, and early struggles

04:40 – Agoraphobia & Isolation

Difficulty leaving home and engaging socially

05:30 – Discovering the Church

Interest in psychedelics for depression

Finding the church through Google

07:00 – First Visit (Pre-Ceremony)

Severe anxiety… but immediate sense of safety

08:00 – First DMT Experience

Conversation with “Child Self”

Letting go of lifelong defense mechanisms

09:00 – Breaking Assumptions

From “this might be a cult” → genuine community

10:20 – Accessibility & Inclusion

Neurodivergent-friendly spiritual text

Small details… big impact

11:50 – Beginning a Relationship with Psychedelics

Scientific curiosity + reverence

Microdosing vs traditional medications

13:30 – Rapid Growth (In 9 Months)

From panic and stimming… to confidence and presence

15:20 – What Makes This Community Different

Intentional acceptance

Community for its own sake — not utility

17:00 – Redefining “Church”

Atheism + spirituality

Finding meaning without dogma

18:40 – Defining “Divinity” Personally

Star Trek/Data analogy

Personhood as sacredness

19:50 – Practical Integration

Prayer as action

Directing energy into meaningful change

21:40 – A Defining Moment

Feeling safe enough to have a panic attack… and stay

23:30 – Growth Indicators

No fidget toys… shoes away from the door

Less need for escape strategies

24:00 – Open Reflections

Geek identity, belonging, and shared curiosity

25:00 – Message to Listeners

“If you’re on the fence… just come.”

26:00 – Finding Your Place

Not every event is for everyone — and that’s okay

27:00 – Closing Reflections

Growth, future potential, and gratitude


⛪ About the Church

The Colorado Psychedelic Church is a community focused on healing, growth, and connection through:

  • Psychedelic-assisted self-exploration

  • Open, judgment-free discussion

  • Peer support and shared experience

What stands out:

  • Deep emphasis on accessibility (including neurodivergent-friendly materials)

  • No pressure to participate in sacrament

  • Pluralistic environment — atheists, spiritual seekers, and everyone in between

  • Real-world integration — applying insights to everyday life

 

At its core, this is a place where people don’t just come to experience something…

They come to change… and be supported while doing it.

 


📬 Contact & Community Info

Interested in checking it out for yourself?

 

  • 🌐 Website: coloradopsychedelicchurch.com

  • 📍 Location: Colorado Springs, CO (shared after connecting)

  • 📅 Weekly Gathering: Tuesday evenings

  • 🎟 Additional Events: 20+ monthly gatherings (classes, socials, discussions)

If you’re unsure… you don’t have to jump in.

 

Come sit.

Come observe.

Come meet people.

 

That’s where most people start.