What We Protect, What We Build w/ Teopixqui Dez & Threadkeeper Sara
Colorado Psychedelic Church Podcast
Release Date: 05/09/2026
Colorado Psychedelic Church Podcast
What does it mean when Dez says, “Pacifism is the privilege of the protected”? In this special message, Teopixqui Dez explores the difference between peace and apathy, and why community requires active participation when people are under threat. Drawing from a recent conversation with a visitor who questioned the church’s boundaries around safety and belonging, Dez explains why safe spaces must be willing to identify what threatens them. The discussion touches on civic engagement, voting, protest, communication, community protection, and the responsibility each person has to use their...
info_outlineColorado Psychedelic Church Podcast
For nearly two and a half years, the Colorado Psychedelic Church gathered in a basement. In this final sermon before moving into a permanent community space, Teopixqui Dez reflects on how a small gathering became a movement… and what it means to carry that momentum into a new chapter. Continuing the series on living a PACK Life, Dez explores two powerful themes: the idea that “pacifism is the privilege of the protected” and the concept of Kairos… those pivotal moments that shape us, challenge us, and ultimately help us grow. Drawing from history, personal experience, and the stories of...
info_outlineColorado Psychedelic Church Podcast
After two and a half years of building community in a basement, the Colorado Psychedelic Church officially opens the doors to its first public storefront location at 5028 North Academy Boulevard in Colorado Springs. In this special opening ceremony, Teopixqui Dez reflects on the church’s growth from a gathering of two people into a movement that has served more than 2,500 individuals seeking community, healing, and belonging. He shares the vision behind the new space as a true third place… a home away from home where people can study, connect, celebrate, heal, and experience revelry...
info_outlineColorado Psychedelic Church Podcast
In this sermon, Teopixqui Dez continues the exploration of PACK Life by focusing on the C: Communication. He frames communication not simply as talking, but as a sacred and practical force that builds connection, strengthens community, confronts ignorance, and resists the forces that try to isolate and silence people. Dez reflects on the church’s move into a new space, the growing visibility of the community, and the responsibility that comes with having a voice. He reminds congregants that their words can protect, heal, challenge, affirm, and even save lives. Communication is presented as...
info_outlineColorado Psychedelic Church Podcast
What does it mean to truly belong somewhere … without losing yourself in the process? In this sermon, Dez continues the ongoing series on PACK Life by exploring the “A” in PACK: Acceptance, Acknowledgement, and Accountability. Together, these three ideas form a foundation for authentic spiritual community … one built not on perfection, but on honesty, growth, healing, and shared responsibility. Dez reflects on the importance of being fully seen while still being fully accepted. From difficult conversations about language, identity, and personal growth to the fear of rejection and...
info_outlineColorado Psychedelic Church Podcast
In this episode, Oracle Richard sits down with congregant Cody for a wide-ranging conversation about community, activism, psychedelics, personal healing, and what it means to keep moving forward “one thing at a time.” Cody shares how he first connected with the Colorado Psychedelic Church after meeting Teopixqui Dez at a No Kings event in Colorado Springs. From there, he began attending Tuesday sermons, a Friday lounge night, and a Sunday DMT sacrament experience that became deeply meaningful. Together, Oracle Richard and Cody explore Cody’s spiritual background, his departure from...
info_outlineColorado Psychedelic Church Podcast
In this sermon, Teopixqui Dez opens with gratitude for the community and reminds everyone that community does not happen passively… it happens when people choose to show up, step out of isolation, and create the “divine us” together. Dez shares excitement about the church’s upcoming new space, with a planned grand opening around June 1st, possible pre-opening lounge night, updates coming to the website, and opportunities for the congregation to help prepare the building. The heart of the sermon focuses on PACK Life, beginning with the first letter: Protection. Dez explains that...
info_outlineColorado Psychedelic Church Podcast
Teopixqui Dez and Threadkeeper Sara sit down in the communal space while folding educational pamphlets and talk candidly about something every real community eventually faces… criticism, misunderstanding, and the need to protect what’s being built. What starts as a conversation about online reviews turns into a bigger reflection on boundaries, generosity, access, and the difference between a movement built on healing and an industry built on profit. Dez and Sara speak openly about a hostile online comment that showed up in response to one of the church’s public event posts, and use it as...
info_outlineColorado Psychedelic Church Podcast
Teopixqui Dez opens by grounding the community in gratitude, momentum, and the ongoing growth of the Colorado Psychedelic Church. As the church moves closer to major expansion, Dez reminds the congregation that community is not passive… it is built through action, care, and shared responsibility. This sermon continues the teaching series on the Seven Psyches, the personality traits that allow a community to flourish across time… from the first pack to the future. Bondsmith Rich speaks on the Steward, the one who tends to the rhythms, needs, and wellness of the community. Drawing from...
info_outlineColorado Psychedelic Church Podcast
Oracle Richard and Threadkeeper Sarah sit down for a deeply personal conversation about growing up in two very different Christian traditions… Sarah in a culturally and religiously Catholic world on the East Coast, and Richard in a homeschooled evangelical Pentecostal environment that functioned almost like a complete social bubble. What unfolds is a thoughtful, funny, and at times heavy reflection on what it means to be shaped by religion long before you ever choose it for yourself. They talk about the stark differences between Catholicism and Protestant evangelicalism… from authority,...
info_outlineTeopixqui Dez and Threadkeeper Sara sit down in the communal space while folding educational pamphlets and talk candidly about something every real community eventually faces… criticism, misunderstanding, and the need to protect what’s being built.
What starts as a conversation about online reviews turns into a bigger reflection on boundaries, generosity, access, and the difference between a movement built on healing and an industry built on profit. Dez and Sara speak openly about a hostile online comment that showed up in response to one of the church’s public event posts, and use it as a springboard to talk about what the Colorado Psychedelic Church is actually trying to create.
They explore the idea of energy exchange in the community… why volunteer work, art cards, mutual aid, and shared effort matter… and why access does not have to be purely financial to be meaningful. They also talk about the ethics of leadership, the importance of creating multiple paths into healing, and the reality that when you’re doing visible good, not everyone will celebrate it.
This conversation is a reminder that meaningful community is not passive. Gardens do not stay healthy on their own. They are tended. Protected. Nourished. And sometimes that means refusing to let weeds take root.
At the heart of it all is a simple truth: the church is not here to compete, to exploit, or to cash in. It is here to create access, support healing, and build a space where people can show up as they are and grow into who they’re becoming.
Timeline
00:02 – Welcome from the communal space
Teopixqui Dez and Threadkeeper Sara introduce the conversation while working on community pamphlets.
00:48 – Reviews, visibility, and why public voices matter
Sara shares how she discovered the church had online reviews and why they help people find the community.
01:51 – A rough start to the morning
Dez explains the hostile online comment that sparked the conversation.
02:24 – Good work attracts criticism
Why healing-centered spaces often provoke backlash from profit-driven or exclusionary mindsets.
03:07 – Gardens, weeds, and boundaries
The importance of protecting the community from malice while remaining open to growth.
04:30 – Reddit, outreach, and visibility
How people discover the church and why showing up publicly matters.
05:17 – Vitriol vs. real feedback
Distinguishing between bad-faith attacks and meaningful critique.
07:17 – What “energy exchange” really means
Sara explains volunteerism, art cards, and non-financial ways of contributing.
08:18 – Investment creates transformation
Why having “skin in the game” often leads to deeper healing.
09:19 – Access for everyone
Dez makes clear that financial struggle is never a barrier to receiving support.
10:16 – The reality of sustaining the mission
Balancing altruism with the practical need to keep the community running.
11:22 – Time, labor, and clergy support
The real investment behind ceremonies and holding space.
14:02 – Movement vs. industry
Why the church focuses on access and healing instead of profit.
14:54 – Different paths into healing
Retreats, communal experiences, and meeting people where they are.
16:29 – Why your voice matters
Encouraging listeners to share honest experiences to counter misinformation.
17:51 – Communication over assumption
The importance of direct conversation within community.
19:33 – Standing firm without arguing
Dez shares the principle: “Never argue when you’re right.”
20:20 – Closing reflections
A reminder that the work continues, and the focus remains on healing.
Contact Us
To learn more about the Colorado Psychedelic Church, upcoming events, open hours, and ways to connect:
ColoradoPsychedelicChurch.com
If you’ve attended an event or been impacted by the community, consider sharing your experience. Your voice helps others find a place to heal and belong.