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Ep. 86 | From Tech to Table: Richard Munson and the Food & Ag Tech Revolution

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Release Date: 04/01/2022

Is the Future of Cultivated Meat in Thailand? Aleph Farms is Betting on It show art Is the Future of Cultivated Meat in Thailand? Aleph Farms is Betting on It

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When you think about cultivated meat, Thailand isn’t exactly the first country that comes to mind. Sure, you may think about the US, Netherlands, Israel, and Singapore. But the Southeast Asian kingdom is where Israeli cultivated meat juggernaut Aleph Farms recently announced its first commercial factory will be.  Having just received Israel’s first regulatory approval to sell cultivated meat—and the world’s first regulatory approval for cultivated beef in particular—Aleph Farms CEO Didier Toubia discusses his company’s rollout strategy with me in this conversation. As you’ll...

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Flying Cars or Electric Cars? Isha Datar’s Thoughts on Where Cultivated Meat Tech Stands Today show art Flying Cars or Electric Cars? Isha Datar’s Thoughts on Where Cultivated Meat Tech Stands Today

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When the New York Times recently ran an  declaring the infant fatality of the cultivated meat industry, Isha Datar, CEO of , was quoted as saying of the sector, “this is a bubble that is going to pop.” Given that New Harvest is intended to promote and advance the field, what did Isha mean by this? She expounded on that thought in a asserting that while she disagrees with the columnist’s conclusion that cultivated meat can never become a viable reality, she believes that the sector has been plagued by “exaggerations, lies, and broken promises.” In this episode, Isha and I talk...

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Mark Post, A Decade After the First Cultivated Burger show art Mark Post, A Decade After the First Cultivated Burger

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In 2013, Dr. Mark Post  when he debuted the world’s first-ever burger grown from animal cells. Weighing in as a quarter-pounder, the burger carried a price tag of a mere $330,000—all of which was funded by Google co-founder Sergey Brin.  A decade later, what does Mark think about the movement and the industry he helped birth?  When his burger was debuted, a grand total of zero companies existed to commercialize what would come to be called cultivated meat, no serious investment dollars had flowed into cultivated meat research, yet hopes were high that such meat would be on...

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Are Smaller Cultivators the Answer for Cultivated Meat’s Success? Niya Gupta Thinks So show art Are Smaller Cultivators the Answer for Cultivated Meat’s Success? Niya Gupta Thinks So

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Some of the companies in the cultivated meat space are betting that massive stainless steel cultivators—think 100,000L to 250,000L—are the path to commercialization. Niya Gupta, CEO of , is thinking smaller.  She argues that there may be a more realistic path using a , void of the impellers that agitate the more conventionally used reactors in the sector.  Founded in 2018, the company was spun out of , the first-ever cultivated animal product company which is now focused on materials like leather rather than meat. Having raised more than $20M in its first six years, Fork and Good...

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Josh Tetrick on the Future of the Cultivated Meat Movement show art Josh Tetrick on the Future of the Cultivated Meat Movement

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If you listened to the , you already know that there’s an updated paperback edition of my book that’s coming out April 9, 2024. I announced in that episode that, aligning with that release, this show will be devoted for a couple months exclusively to interviews with leaders in the cultivated meat space, many of whom are profiled in the book.  And there’s perhaps no person in the cultivated meat sector who’s generated more headlines than Josh Tetrick, CEO of both and . Along with people like Mark Post and Uma Valeti, both of whom will also be guests in this podcast series,...

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Brief thoughts on the alt-meat movement and my role in it show art Brief thoughts on the alt-meat movement and my role in it

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I’m excited to announce in this short new podcast episode that there’s a new, updated, that’s coming out on April 9, 2024. Published by Simon and Schuster’s Gallery Books, the new Clean Meat is now available for preorder everywhere books are sold.  Aligning with this new edition release, for the next couple months, this podcast is going to focus squarely on the issue that’s animated my life for the past 30 years: how to wean humanity off our animal-centered diets. The extraordinary suffering of the literally trillions of animals who we farm and kill for food has plagued me for...

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Incubating Tomorrow’s Alt-Protein Unicorns: The Kitchen show art Incubating Tomorrow’s Alt-Protein Unicorns: The Kitchen

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If you’ve spent any time in the startup ecosystem, you start realizing pretty quickly that the US isn’t alone in producing a lot of startups, but that there are some very small countries, like Israel and Singapore, that consistently punch above their weight when it comes to new company creation. In fact, Israel is often known as the startup nation, and there’s even a  on the topic with that very title.  And if you’re in the startup food technology space, whether in Israel or elsewhere, there’s one name you’re sure to know: .  Founded a decade ago, The Kitchen has...

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When Nonprofits Start Businesses: Garden for Wildlife and the National Wildlife Federation show art When Nonprofits Start Businesses: Garden for Wildlife and the National Wildlife Federation

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Most startups are founded by entrepreneurs hopeful that their idea will be the next big thing and pad their bank accounts in the process. Yet sometimes companies are started not by enterprising capitalists, but rather by a far less likely progenitor: nonprofit charities.  That’s exactly what happened when the nonprofit decided to spin out a for-profit corporation devoted to advancing the charity’s mission to protect wildlife. The company, , is already selling native plants to homeowners seeking to make their yards a bit more nonhuman-friendly. The basic premise is this: Too much...

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Can Tech Improve Farm Animals’ Lives? Robert Yaman Is Betting On It show art Can Tech Improve Farm Animals’ Lives? Robert Yaman Is Betting On It

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Many times when we talk about technology that can improve animal welfare, we’re talking about innovations that either have displaced or could displace the use of animals. Think for example about cars replacing horse-power, kerosene replacing whale oil, and animal-free meats displacing factory farming of animals. But can technology also be used to make better the lives of animals who are still being used? Long-time tech enthusiast and animal advocate is betting on that idea, and has launched a new charity, , designed to help the animal-use industries implement such new technologies. In its...

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Making Alt-Meat Research More Intelligent: GreenProtein AI & Noa Weiss show art Making Alt-Meat Research More Intelligent: GreenProtein AI & Noa Weiss

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Predictions abound for industries that allegedly will be upended by artificial intelligence, or AI. Will Uber drivers and truck drivers be replaced by AI-powered self-driving vehicles? Will writers and journalists be displaced by ChatGPT and its competitors? While many of our physical tasks have now been replaced by machines, it’s possible that in the future many of our cognitive tasks will also be replaced by machines that can do a better and faster job than we can, and for a lot less money. This has relevance for many industries, but what about plant-based meat? Nearly all plant-based meat...

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I try to read any new book that comes out on the topic, and that includes Richard Munson’s new book Tech to Table: 25 Innovators Reminaging Food. I really enjoyed reading this book by someone who’s far more well-known for his deep-dive biographies of visionaries like Nikola Tesla and Jacque Cousteau, but now has written a new book featuring dozens of entrepreneurs seeking to create a more sustainable food system. And they’re doing this not by returning to 19th century agriculture, but by embracing 21st century food and agriculture technology.

In this interview we discuss everything from how new tech can displace old jobs, why some environmentalists don’t seem that down with new tech that could benefit the environment, and what the future of food and ag may bring. It’s a wide-ranging conversation about a book with a wide-range of topics and I hope you enjoy it as much as I did!