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321: Beyond the Therapy Office with Josh Wayne

Stories from the Field: Mental Health and the Outdoors

Release Date: 07/21/2026

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Can psychotherapy become more effective when it moves beyond the therapy office? In this episode, Will sits down with Atlanta psychotherapist Josh Wayne, LMSW, MPH, to explore nature-based psychotherapy and walk-and-talk therapy. Before becoming a therapist, Josh spent more than fifteen years as a naturalist, teaching people about wild plants, mushrooms, and ecology. Today, he integrates those experiences into his private practice, helping clients facing anxiety, grief, depression, chronic illness, and life transitions reconnect with themselves through meaningful experiences outdoors.

Josh also shares how his background in public health, foraging, and ecology has shaped his approach to mental health, along with insights into green burial, the connection between physical and emotional wellbeing, and why the natural world can become an important partner in healing. Whether you're a therapist, mental health professional, graduate student, or someone curious about outdoor therapy, ecotherapy, and the relationship between nature and mental health, this conversation offers a fresh perspective on what lies beyond the therapy office.

This podcast is supported by the White Mountain Adventure Institute (WMAI.org), where Dr. Will White helps individuals, leaders, and organizations navigate growth, change, and life transitions through coaching, consulting, and retreats.