Why Most People Are Terrible With Money (And How to Fix It)- Sammie Ellard- King
The Gavin Sisters Wellness Show
Release Date: 03/09/2026
The Gavin Sisters Wellness Show
In this episode, Lauretta is joined by world-renowned biogerontologist and cell biologist Valter Longo, known for his groundbreaking research on fasting, aging, nutrition and longevity. They explore the science behind the Fasting Mimicking Diet (FMD), its potential role in autoimmune conditions, inflammation, blood pressure, cancer support and extending healthspan. Lauretta also shares her personal journey recovering from autoimmune disease using diet and fasting protocols, making this a powerful and deeply personal conversation. In this episode, we cover: Prof Valter Longo’s research...
info_outlineThe Gavin Sisters Wellness Show
This week on The Gavin Sisters Wellness Show, Sharon and I are talking about something that honestly makes both of us feel slightly anxious… money. Finance has always felt a bit overwhelming (and if I’m honest, a bit boring) but it’s also something that affects every part of our wellbeing — our stress levels, our sleep, our relationships and how free we feel in our lives. Before we dive into the conversation, we start with our usual weekly catch-up. This includes my irritation with wellness buzzwords like mindful eating, Sharon’s slightly terrifying medical results appointment...
info_outlineThe Gavin Sisters Wellness Show
In this interview, wellness expert Gudiya Patel shares her story of receiving two kidney cancer diagnoses—both discovered through preventive testing—alongside the realities of parenting, running a business, caregiving, and living in long-term fight-or-flight. She explains why she became passionate about testing and prevention, what’s realistically available via a GP vs privately, and how stress can shape health over time. The conversation explores the mind–body connection, including the impact of thoughts, cortisol, and nervous system regulation, and how Gudiya’s deeper work with...
info_outlineThe Gavin Sisters Wellness Show
In this episode, We sit down with Will Chase, the entrepreneur behind Tyrell’s Crisps, Chase Distillery, and Willie's Apple Cider Vinegar. Will takes us through his journey from conventional farming to building some of the UK’s most successful food and drink brands. We talk about: Turning potatoes into Tyrell’s Crisps and discovering the huge market for vegetable chips. Launching a craft distillery and exploring the craft spirit boom in the UK. How Willie’s Apple Cider Vinegar “with the living mother” is different from anything else on the market. The highs, lows, and...
info_outlineThe Gavin Sisters Wellness Show
In this episode of The Gavin Sisters Wellness Show, Lauretta and Sharon welcome award-winning entrepreneur and personal branding expert Sophie Millican, MBE. The sisters kick off with a candid (and hilarious) chat about “wellness bros,” performative gratitude, and sales disguised as service, before diving into a powerful, honest conversation about entrepreneurship, resilience, and risk-taking. Sophie shares her journey from corporate life at John Lewis to building and selling her first business, the realities of being a single mum while scaling companies, remortgaging her house to fund...
info_outlineThe Gavin Sisters Wellness Show
Dr. Chidy joins The Gavin Sisters Wellness Show to unpack what it really takes to reverse chronic disease using meals, movement, and mindset. The conversation covers autoimmune conditions and the “root cause” concept (including leaky gut and immune triggers), why vitamin D is a non-negotiable (especially in darker climates), and what Dr. Chiddy sees as the most sustainable path to healing: a whole-food, plant-based lifestyle. They also tackle controversial topics like carnivore/keto claims, why some people feel better short-term on restrictive plans, and why Dr. Chidy...
info_outlineThe Gavin Sisters Wellness Show
This week on The Gavin Sisters Wellness Show we welcome the brilliant Dr. Rachel Gow. Before we got into the science, Sharon and I had a proper honest chat about how we’ve been living lately… and it’s been a mix. We’ve been very hard on ourselves, feeling like we should be doing more, reading more, optimising more — while also getting sucked into dopamine rabbit holes (hello back-to-back thrillers and random celebrity drama). Basically: guilt, scrolling, guilt, repeat… which is not exactly “wellness podcast” behaviour Which is why Dr. Rachel Gow was the perfect...
info_outlineThe Gavin Sisters Wellness Show
This week we’re joined by William Porter, author of Alcohol Explained, for a clear, no-nonsense look at why alcohol is so compelling, and why it can be so hard to moderate. We talk about alcohol’s sedative effect, how the brain counteracts it (and why that can feel like anxiety later), why cravings aren’t just “lack of willpower,” and how alcohol disrupts sleep (including those familiar 3am wake-ups). We also unpack the myth of alcohol as a “truth drug,” the link between drinking and low mood, and why many people find it easier to stop completely than to keep negotiating...
info_outlineThe Gavin Sisters Wellness Show
When Mail journalist Sandra Parsons suffered a serious back injury in her mid-40s, she knew something had to change. Years of smoking, drinking, and late-night takeaways at her desk had taken their toll—she was in constant pain and felt, quite simply, old. Determined to heal her body, Sandra began exploring the science of ageing—and was amazed by what she discovered: that ageing is increasingly seen not as an inevitability, but as a treatable condition. By tackling its root causes, it's possible to turn back the biological clock and dramatically extend your health span. Drawing on...
info_outlineThe Gavin Sisters Wellness Show
In this enlightening episode, author and mental health advocate Rachel Kelly joins us to explore her transformative book, The Gift of Teenagers. Drawing from her personal journey and professional experience, Rachel offers heartfelt stories and practical insights into the challenges and joys of parenting teens. From navigating the digital age to understanding attachment styles, Rachel helps us reframe adolescence as a time of growth—not just for teenagers, but for parents too. I’ve realised that by keeping calm and creating my own happiness, I can have a profound effect on my children....
info_outlineThis week on The Gavin Sisters Wellness Show, Sharon and I are talking about something that honestly makes both of us feel slightly anxious… money.
Finance has always felt a bit overwhelming (and if I’m honest, a bit boring) but it’s also something that affects every part of our wellbeing — our stress levels, our sleep, our relationships and how free we feel in our lives.
Before we dive into the conversation, we start with our usual weekly catch-up. This includes my irritation with wellness buzzwords like mindful eating, Sharon’s slightly terrifying medical results appointment (thankfully she’s absolutely fine), and a reminder that life is never quite as calm and balanced as the wellness world sometimes suggests.
Then we’re joined by Sammie Ellard-King, founder of Up The Gains, and the conversation becomes really fascinating.
Sammie shares how he found himself around £24,000 in debt after university, how trying to keep up appearances in London made things spiral, and the moment he realised something had to change.
What I loved about this conversation is that Sammy doesn’t talk about money in a complicated or intimidating way. Instead, he breaks it down into simple habits, mindset shifts and small actions that anyone can take.
We talk about how our childhood and family experiences shape our relationship with money, why so many people feel ashamed or avoid looking at their finances, and how even saving small amounts can completely change your confidence over time.
By the end of the episode I actually felt… dare I say it… inspired about finance.
In this episode we talk about:
-
Why money can feel stressful, overwhelming and taboo
-
Sammy’s journey from £24k of debt to financial stability
-
How family patterns shape our money habits
-
The emotional side of spending and wanting to “fit in”
-
Why traditional budgeting doesn’t work for most people
-
The idea of automating your finances to remove stress
-
Side hustles and creative ways to increase income
-
The psychology behind impulse spending
-
Money mindset, abundance and believing things can change
My biggest takeaway
You don’t need to become a financial expert to improve your relationship with money.
Small steps, small habits and a bit of awareness can go a really long way.
And perhaps most importantly, money stress is something almost everyone experiences, so there’s absolutely no shame in learning about it.
About our guest
Sammie Ellard-King is the founder of Up The Gains, a platform designed to simplify finance and help people feel more confident managing their money.
After getting himself out of debt in his twenties, Sammy began sharing what he’d learned in a way that felt simple, practical and accessible. He now runs a large online community helping people understand finance without the jargon.
You can find Sammy here: https://upthegains.co.uk/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/upthegainsmoney/
This episode is sponsored by…
Us! The Gavin Sisters.
We’ve created our very first product Funki Coffee, a triple certified organic arabica coffee boosted with adaptogens designed to support energy without the crash.
You can get 10% off at use the code podcast
GavinSisters.co.uk
Remember to hit SUBSCRIBE or FOLLOW so you don't miss any new episodes, follow us on the links below for more and please review us, even one line helps!!
Insta: @gavinsistersuk
TIKTOK:@gavinsisters
Facebook: @TheDetoxBarn
You Tube: @gavingavin