State Of NERC CIP, European Update and OT Security Community
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Patrick Miller has OT cybersecurity experience as an asset owner, PacificCorp. As a regulator and one of the first NERC CIP auditors with WECC. As a community organizer creating and leading EnergySec and the BeerISAC. And as an entrepreneur creating and leading a number of consulting practices. He is currently the Founder of Ampyx Cyber. In this episode Patrick and Dale discuss: Why Patrick changed the company name and selected Talinn as the location for the new European office. The major differences in approaches to OT cybersecurity and risk management between Europe and the US....
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Book Interview: Introduction To SBOM And VEX
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S4x24 Closing Panel
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Q1: ICS Security In Review
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Emma Stewart joins Dale to discuss the 3 big OT & ICS security stories from the first quarter. They end by giving their win, fail and prediction for Q1.
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S4x24 Preview
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Predictions Analyzed
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In this solosode episode Dale reviews the status of his three predictions from the Q1, 2 and 3 quarter in review episodes and answers a listener question.
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Q4 ICS Security Quarter In Review
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CISA Attack Surface Scanning Service
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Dale is joined by Steve Pozza, CISA Section Chief of Operational Resilience, and Tom Millar, CISA Branch Chief of Resilience, to discuss some of CISA's security services for asset owners. They discuss: The Internet accessible attack surface enumeration and vulnerability scanning surface. Asset owners can buy products or services to do this. Why is the government doing this? What CISA is doing with this attack surface data? How is CISA measuring the success of this service offering? Other broadly available services and tools, the cybersecurity performance goals (CPG assessment) ~500 done in...
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Engineering-Grade OT Security with Andrew Ginter
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Andrew Ginter published his third book this year: . Dale interviews Andrew on the book including: Who was the target reader that Andrew wrote the book for? Do (should) professional engineers lose their licenses for poor and dangerous cybersecurity design and deployments? The use of the term engineering grade, and how he defines it. Unhackable protection and safety controls as a major part of engineering grade. Unidirectional (one-way) network devices as the only security control listed as engineering grade. Is one-way from the enterprise network to the OT network engineering grade? Given the...
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Asset Inventory, Lawyers, and AI
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This week is a Dale Peterson solosode. Updates and Announcements Dale provides updates about S4x24 ticket sales and announces the Women In ICS Security program and sponsor package. Main Topics Asset Inventory in Cybersecurity: Dale challenges the common security mantra "You can't protect what you don't know," using examples from both physical and cyber domains. He notes many of the comments on this week's article missed the main point, and he gives hints on the next two asset inventory articles. Legal and Regulatory Issues in Cybersecurity: Dale emphasizes the importance of domain expertise...
info_outlineMichael Assante is my guest for this episode. He has a storied career and recently won the RSA Conference Award for Excellence in Information Security. Mike was the VP/CSO of NERC CIP, active at INL in the Aurora demonstration, led the development and implementation of the SANS ICS Security Training program, and even began working as CSO for an electric utility.
In this episode we discuss:
Mike's receiving the RSA award and what this means for the recognition of ICS security by the breoader information security community.
Based on Mike's NERC CIP experience, what type of regulation would he recommend for another sector such as natural gas pipelines? Should we avoid the regulated entity determing and auditing the regulations? How should we make a regulation more efficient (more risk reduction for the level of effort and resources)?
Based on Mike's involvement in Aurora, what messages and followup actions were intended and what was the actual impact? What lessons remain to be learned?
What is the most valuable aspect that NCCIC should take forward from the old ICS-CERT? What should they do dramatically different?
Why did Mike select SANS for his workforce development efforts (after starting his own organization prior to that)? Who is going to train the people from the Operations side where SANS has much less mindshare? How do we fill the gap for people that need more than cyber hygiene, but not a 3 or 5 day course?
How should one going into a large, bureaucratic organization and maintain a forward push for change without getting being beaten down or getting ejected for pushing too hard.
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This episode was sponsored by CyberX. Founded by military cyber experts with nation-state expertise defending critical infrastructure, CyberX has developed an end-to-end platform for continuous ICS threat monitoring and risk mitigation.
Check out the CyberX Global ICS and IIoT Risk Report and my podcast from last year on the report with Phil Neray.