On Shifting Ground
Geopolitical turmoil. A warming planet. Authoritarians on the rise. We live in a chaotic world that’s rapidly shifting around us. “On Shifting Ground with Ray Suarez” explores international fault lines and how they impact us all. Each week, NPR veteran Ray Suarez hosts conversations with journalists, leaders and policy experts to help us read between the headlines – and give us hope for human resilience. A co-production of World Affairs and KQED.
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Water Security, and Why Israelis and Gazans Must Work Together
04/22/2024
Water Security, and Why Israelis and Gazans Must Work Together
According to the Center for Strategic and International Studies, access to water in Gaza has dropped by 95 percent since October 7th, and as many as seven-in-ten Gazans are drinking salty and contaminated water to survive. Water is at the center of environmental challenges facing the whole Middle East, and it is perhaps the most pressing concern for desperate Gazans. So what are regional NGOs doing to provide clean water to millions of displaced people? Climate One’s Greg Dalton speaks with Nada Majdalani, Palestinian Director of EcoPeace Middle East, about Ecopeace’s three-decade journey to water security in the Middle East. Then, Ray Suarez speaks with Dr. Tareq Abu Hamed, Executive Director of the Arava Institute for Environmental Studies, to understand how climate scientists are trying to rebuild in Gaza following the recent violence. Guests: , Palestinian Director of EcoPeace Middle East , Executive Director of the Arava Institute for Environmental Studies Host: , founder and co-host, Climate One
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The Silver Wave: Challenges and Opportunities of Global Aging
04/18/2024
The Silver Wave: Challenges and Opportunities of Global Aging
By 2030, it’s estimated one out of every six people on planet earth will be over 60. Thanks to leaps in technology and public health, people are living longer and better than ever before. We’re taking a look at what economists and demographers are calling “the Silver Wave.” Ray speaks with MIT’s Joseph F. Coughlin,and New York Times Tokyo Bureau Chief Motoko Rich, on the challenges – and opportunities – that global aging presents. Guests: , PhD, Founder and Director of MIT’s AgeLab , Tokyo Bureau Chief for the New York Times Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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Boozing Boomers
04/15/2024
Boozing Boomers
For the most part, the world has gone back to normal. We’re getting on planes… going to concerts… but many Americans haven’t changed their pandemic drinking habits. And this increased consumption trend is especially high for older Americans. In 2020, alcohol accounted for more than 11,000 deaths among those 65 and up – that’s an 18 percent increase from the previous year – and many of those cases went untreated. Ray speaks with Keith Humphreys, Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at Stanford University, to understand why. Guest: , Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at Stanford University Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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Hong Kong, A History of Defiance and the Fight for Free Speech
04/11/2024
Hong Kong, A History of Defiance and the Fight for Free Speech
Ray Suarez talks with former NPR Beijing correspondent Louisa Lim about China’s brazen efforts to stamp out free speech in Hong Kong, the city she grew up in. Lim shares the experiences she chronicled in her book , an emotional eyewitness account of the pro-democracy protests and a reflection on Hong Kong’s identity. Guest: , journalist and author of “” Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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Jimmy Lai’s Fate and the Future of Democracy in Hong Kong
04/08/2024
Jimmy Lai’s Fate and the Future of Democracy in Hong Kong
Ray Suarez speaks with Sebastien Lai, the son of the imprisoned media mogul Jimmy Lai, and Jonathan Price, a member of Lai’s legal team. He’s on trial for his pro-democracy campaign, and they explore the fate of Hong Kong after China’s passage of the restrictive Article 23. Guests: Sebastien Lai, democracy advocate and son of jailed Hong Kong businessman and publisher Jonathan Price, a member of Jimmy Lai’s legal team Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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Dobbs’ Domino Effect: The Future of Choice in America – A 2024 Election Special
04/01/2024
Dobbs’ Domino Effect: The Future of Choice in America – A 2024 Election Special
Abortion advocates have long warned the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade would reverberate across all areas of reproductive health. Two years later, state personhood laws have challenged IVF and birth control… further threatening women’s bodily autonomy. In our third special election episode, we explore how the issue of abortion rights is likely to shape the 2024 election. First, we hear from two women whose lives were changed by rapidly shifting legislation surrounding IVF and abortion access. Then, Ray Suarez sits down with Dr. Jamila Perritt, President and CEO of Physicians for Reproductive Health (PRH), and UC Davis Law Professor Mary Ziegler to discuss the upcoming cases before the Supreme Court, and who may be the next “Roe”. Special thanks to All Roads Productions LLC for sharing the audio of Maleeha’s encounter with a crisis pregnancy center. You can watch the full scene from “Preconceived” at . Guests: Latorya Beasley, therapist and in vitro fertilization (IVF) patient in Alabama , Deputy Director at the , President and CEO of Physicians for Reproductive Health (PRH) , Martin Luther King Professor of Law at the University of California, Davis Host: Guest Producer: Elize Manoukian If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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For Palestine, Biden’s Uncommitted Voters Won’t Be Trump Shamed
03/28/2024
For Palestine, Biden’s Uncommitted Voters Won’t Be Trump Shamed
Earlier this year, a grassroots movement emerged in the key battleground state of Michigan calling on Democratic voters to cast “uncommitted votes” in protest of president Joe Biden’s policy towards Israel’s war in Gaza. And in the months since, it’s gone national. But are Arab and Muslim American voters willing to gamble a second Trump presidency to hold Biden accountable for his Israel policy? Nihad Awad, a CAIR Action board member, joins Ray Suarez to share why Arab and Muslim voters feel abandoned by the Democratic party, and why they won’t be bullied into accepting the “lesser of two evils.” Guest: , Board Member of Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) Action Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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Bear Hugs with Israel and Ballot Box Blues
03/25/2024
Bear Hugs with Israel and Ballot Box Blues
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's staunch opposition to a ceasefire in Gaza — and a future Palestinian state — is putting President Joe Biden in a vulnerable position at home. And as the 2024 election quickly approaches, it’s becoming clearer that US-Israel policy will be a lingering concern. Ray Suarez sits down with Zack Beauchamp, a senior correspondent at Vox, to unpack how the political winds on Israel may be shifting. Guest: , Senior Correspondent at Vox Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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Why is America Always in Cuba’s Business?
03/21/2024
Why is America Always in Cuba’s Business?
The US has once again ignored the United Nations’ annual resolution calling for an end to its decades-long embargo on Cuba, even as Cubans took to the streets to protest the island nation’s worst economic crisis in decades, with shortages of food and fuel. And when the US Embassy urged the Communist-led regime to “attend to the legitimate needs” of its people, the Cuban government criticized the comment as “open interference in Cuba’s domestic affairs.” For Cuba, Washington's long standing role in the current crisis makes their complaints a “hypocrisy.” In this episode, we revisit Ray’s conversation with Pulitzer-Prize-winning author Ada Ferrer on just how intertwined the histories of the US and Cuba are, and why we’re so inseparable. Guest: , Julius Silver Professor of History and Latin American Studies at New York University and Pulitzer-Prize-winning author of Cuba: An American History Host(s): If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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From Crisis to Normalization – and Back Again: A Conversation with the Cuban Ambassador
03/18/2024
From Crisis to Normalization – and Back Again: A Conversation with the Cuban Ambassador
Cuba is facing its worst economic crisis in decades, and shortages of food, fuel, medicine — and opportunity — have fueled a record-breaking surge of Cuban immigrants at America’s borders. But the US shows no signs of changing its policy towards the embargoed island, nor reversing former President Trump’s designation of the communist-led nation as a “state sponsor of terror.” Ray Suarez sits down with Lianys Torres Rivera, Cuban Ambassador to the US, to unpack how migration and economic sanctions are linked. Guest: , Chargée D'Affairs, Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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How Europe Paid to Lock Up Migrants… and Threw Away The Key
03/14/2024
How Europe Paid to Lock Up Migrants… and Threw Away The Key
Mass death and disappearances have become normalized on Europe’s borders. Back in 2015, when more than a million refugees turned up on Europe’s doorstep to request asylum, the European Union cut deals with North African and Middle Eastern nations to hold back the flow of asylum-seekers. Since then, roughly 29,000 people have died or disappeared in the Mediterranean, reports the . And for the migrants who were were intercepted while attempting to cross the Mediterranean Sea and forcibly placed in , they face inhumane living conditions, beatings, sexual abuse, starvation… and death — consequences of Europe’s ongoing cooperation with nations like Libya on migration and border control. In , journalist Sally Hayden reports on the shadowy immigration system created by the European Union which captures and imprisons migrants from Africa to keep them from reaching European soil. In an interview with Senior KQED editor Rachael Myrow, Hayden explains how western institutions are complicit in this humanitarian crisis. Featuring: Rachael Myrow, senior editor of KQED's Silicon Valley News Desk Sally Hayden, author of and Africa correspondent for the Irish Times If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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Ukraine Diaries: The Ones Who Stayed
03/11/2024
Ukraine Diaries: The Ones Who Stayed
The 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine has forced millions to flee their homes. And for the Ukrainian civilians caught in the crossfire, war has become a way of life. This week, we talked to Ukrainians about the ways that the war unexpectedly changed their lives. Kateryna Lazarevych, an archivist at the in Kyiv, shares how she’s working to improve her country, as if everyday were her last day on earth. Filmmaker Iryna Tsilyk takes us through her decision to leave Kyiv where her husband is fighting as a soldier in Ukraine’s Territorial Defense Forces. And Alex Gerz, a Russian-Ukrainian student living in Germany, records his story from the road, where he provides humanitarian assistance and safe passage to those fleeing Ukraine with a ragtag army of volunteers. Guests: Kateryna Lazarevych, archivist at the in Kyiv , filmmaker and director of “” Alex Gerz, Russian-Ukrainian student based in Kassel, Germany Host: Producers: Andrew Stelzer, KALW producer If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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How Kenya Took the Fight for Gender Equality… to Reality TV
03/07/2024
How Kenya Took the Fight for Gender Equality… to Reality TV
Shortly before the end of his term in 2022, former Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta pledged to end gender-based violence in his country by 2026. With two years left before the deadline, is Kenya still on track to fulfill the promises made to Kenyan women? And how is Kenyan media keeping the fight alive? This week, we’re sharing an episode from Foreign Policy’s “”, about how reality TV is helping women’s rights activists press the Kenyan government to uphold its pledge. Guests: Audrey Mugeni, the co-founder of Anne Ireri, the executive director of the Hosts: Reena Ninan, founder of Good Trouble Productions Laura Rosbrow-Telem, senior producer at Foreign Policy If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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Kara Swisher’s Tech Love Story: The Good, Bad, and Ugly of Silicon Valley
03/04/2024
Kara Swisher’s Tech Love Story: The Good, Bad, and Ugly of Silicon Valley
To leaders in Silicon Valley, artificial intelligence is just the latest innovation in a never-ending “make our lives better.” But can we trust them with our data… and our lives… if they can’t be held accountable? Journalist Kara Swisher joins Ray Suarez to discuss her newest book, “Burn Book,” and the psyche of Silicon Valley’s biggest players. Plus: Hear Kara Swisher discuss “Burn Book,” the inside story of Silicon valley and the biggest boom in wealth creation in history live at the Commonwealth Club World Affairs on Thursday, March 7. . Guest: , author of “Burn Book,” and host of the podcast “On with Kara Swisher” Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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Foreign Policy is on the Ballot… But Do We Care? A 2024 Election Special
02/26/2024
Foreign Policy is on the Ballot… But Do We Care? A 2024 Election Special
Most Americans are far more focused on “pocketbook issues” – like stretching an ever-inflating dollar – than what the country does overseas in their name. But this election cycle, calls for additional aid for overseas wars has put foreign policy on the ballot for voters. In the second episode of our special election series, South Carolina voter Maryann Wright shares her thoughts on the role of American democracy at home… and its responsibility abroad. Then, Ray Suarez sits down with , former US Deputy Secretary of State, and , columnist at The New York Times, to see why international affairs will matter come November. Guests: , former US Deputy Secretary of State , NY Times columnist Maryann Wright, retired teacher and South Carolina voter Phil Hemingway, former owner of Phil’s Repair, LLC and Iowa voter Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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Will War Bring the End of Ukraine’s Democracy?
02/22/2024
Will War Bring the End of Ukraine’s Democracy?
Saturday marks the second anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine. And while foreign support may be dwindling, Ukrainian determination to win the war is not. But what’s at stake when war no longer feels like an emergency… but a way of life? Ray Suarez sits down with , staff writer for The New Yorker, to unpack the toll of Russia’s aggression on Ukraine’s freedoms… and democracy. Guest: , Russian-American award-winning author and staff writer for Host(s): If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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Ukraine’s David and Goliath Fight for the Security of Europe
02/19/2024
Ukraine’s David and Goliath Fight for the Security of Europe
Vladimir Putin set the world on edge when Russia invaded Ukraine. Two years later, international support for Ukraine’s sovereignty is becoming more precarious, and war weariness amongst the resistance — and their allies— has begun to set in. Global affairs analyst joins Ray Suarez to explain how a besieged Ukraine may be Europe’s last line of defense against Putin. Guest: , global affairs analyst and nonresident at the Atlantic Council’s Eurasia Center Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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Remembering Alexei Navalny
02/16/2024
Remembering Alexei Navalny
On February 16, 2024, the Russian prison service reported that Alexei Navalny had died, and offered no further explanation. The cause of death hasn’t yet been reported, but since the news broke, world leaders have started speaking out against Vladimir Putin… and it brings a new round of scrutiny to the Russian dictator. In May 2022, Ray sat down with documentarian Daniel Roher to chat 'Navalny,' his new film following the famed Russian opposition leader’s recovery from a Kremlin-sponsored assassination attempt and his ongoing search for justice. The film took home the Academy Award for best documentary last year. To remember the life and political career of Alexei Navalny, we’re revisiting Ray’s conversation with Daniel Roher. Guest: , documentary filmmaker and director of 'Navalny' Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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Where Does Biden’s Middle East Strategy Go From Here?
02/15/2024
Where Does Biden’s Middle East Strategy Go From Here?
Nearly 30,000 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza as Israel continues its massive retaliation against Hamas. And as violence spreads to Yemen, Iraq, and Syria, America’s global standing is taking a hit. Ray Suarez sits down with , Iran expert and Executive Vice President of the , to unpack how Biden’s unwavering support of Israel could cost him in the Middle East… and at home. Guest: , Executive Vice President of the Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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Why Israel Wants to Get Rid of UNRWA
02/12/2024
Why Israel Wants to Get Rid of UNRWA
The United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) was established to aid Palestinian refugees, but it has become yet another flashpoint in the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas. Israel has accused 12 out of the 13,000 UNRWA employees of taking part in Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack on Israeli settlements. And as major donors like the United States, Germany and Britain have paused their funding, the aid agency may have to cease its life-saving operations for millions of Palestinians in Gaza by the end of February 2024. Kenneth Roth, former executive director of Human Rights Watch, joins Ray Suarez to address Israel’s allegations against UNRWA, and offers a critique of the Biden administration's unequivocal support of Israel, despite that Israel is using starvation as a weapon of war against Palestinians in Gaza. Guest: , Former Executive Director of Human Rights Watch and author of “Righting Wrongs” Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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Stranded: Immigration Policy and the Price of Entry
02/08/2024
Stranded: Immigration Policy and the Price of Entry
Immigration has emerged as a major voter concern in the 2024 elections, and the challenge of securing America’s Southern border is once again a political flashpoint. But while the US debates immigration reform, tens of thousands of migrants have become pawns in a game that endangers their lives… Ray Suarez sits down with immigration attorney Mahsa Khanbabai to dive into what the broken visa process for Afghan refugees can teach us about immigration reform. Guest: , immigration attorney at Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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Between Two Worlds
02/05/2024
Between Two Worlds
Immigrants in California are generally protected from federal deportation under sanctuary and safe haven laws, unless they've been incarcerated. And in 2022, after serving 25 years for murder, San Quentin State Prison parolee Phoeun You was turned over to ICE, and deported without warning. In this episode, tells “On Shifting Ground” senior producer Mateo Schimpf about coming to terms with surviving the Cambodian genocide, how he got caught up in the prison-to-deportation pipeline, and the hard choice he made to find freedom. If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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What’s Wrong, America? A 2024 Election Special
01/29/2024
What’s Wrong, America? A 2024 Election Special
Americans — from the largest urban centers to the smallest rural towns — are deeply pessimistic about the state of the nation. And on both sides of the political aisle, there seems to be a disconnect between what people want… and where they feel the country is headed. This week, we’re kicking off our special election series, and throughout the year we’ll deep-dive into the issues driving the 2024 Presidential Election. In this first episode, we’ll hear from Iowa voter Phil Hemingway about how he’s feeling about this contentious election year. Then, Ray Suarez sits down with Dante Chinni, director of MSU J-School’s , to explore how to unite a divided country. Guests: Phil Hemingway, owner, manager and automotive technician at , data and political journalist and director of the MSU J-School’s , staff writer for The Atlantic, Pulitzer-prize winning historian and author of “The Twilight of Democracy” , a political scientist, author of “The Power of Crisis,” and professor at Columbia University’s School of International and Political Affairs Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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Scott Galloway: Dislike by Design, How Big Tech Drives ‘American Enragement’
01/25/2024
Scott Galloway: Dislike by Design, How Big Tech Drives ‘American Enragement’
Elon Musk’s leadership at “X” (formerly Twitter) has been messy, and his disregard for user safeguards is part of a troubling trend in Silicon Valley. Revisiting the conversation from 2023, Ray Suarez sits down with NYU professor to explore how Silicon Valley’s profit-chasing – and unchecked influence – is destroying American society… and our kids. Guest: , Professor of Marketing at Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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For America’s Democracy… and Your Well-Being, Check the Facts
01/22/2024
For America’s Democracy… and Your Well-Being, Check the Facts
The 2024 US election season is officially underway, and experts are already bracing for the array of threats to free and fair elections that were made all too real the last time Americans elected a president. And this time, many are concerned that it’ll be even harder to combat fake election claims online and political violence. and , co-founders of UC Berkeley’s , join Ray Suarez to break down how our digital lives are destroying our mental health… and our democracy. Plus: check out our past conversation with Alexa Koenig on to learn more about what UC Berkeley’s Human Rights Investigations Lab does. Guests: and , co-founders of UC Berkeley’s and co-authors of “” Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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Dodging Bullets For Bylines: Sean Carberry on War Reporting
01/18/2024
Dodging Bullets For Bylines: Sean Carberry on War Reporting
From accidental collateral damage deaths to targeted murders by the people in charge who don’t want them telling the truth, an unprecedented number of journalists are being killed while reporting. So what motivates reporters to keep filing stories despite the ever present threat of danger? Sean Carberry, author of the memoir “Passport Stamps: Searching The World For A War To Call Home,” joins Ray Suarez to unpack the human costs of reporting from war zones. Guest: , Managing Editor of National Defense Magazine and author of the memoir “Passport Stamps: Searching the World For a War to Call Home” Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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WSJ Moscow Bureau Chief on the Fate of Evan Gershkovich
01/15/2024
WSJ Moscow Bureau Chief on the Fate of Evan Gershkovich
Reporting in war zones is an inherently dangerous job. Last year, 95 international media workers were killed while reporting, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists. And as the wars in Ukraine and Gaza drag on, 2024 may be just as deadly. So how can we protect the journalists putting their lives on the line? We revisit our conversation with CPJ’s Gulnoza Said on why the safety of journalists matters to the health of a free press. Then, Ann Simmons, Moscow Bureau Chief at The Wall Street Journal, joins Ray Suarez to give an update on the detention of American reporter Evan Gershkovich, who is accused of espionage by Russia. Guests: , Europe and Central Asia Program Coordinator for The Committee to Protect Journalists , Moscow Bureau Chief at The Wall Street Journal Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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David Brooks on ‘How to Know A Person’… And Why It Matters to Democracy
01/08/2024
David Brooks on ‘How to Know A Person’… And Why It Matters to Democracy
Hate crimes, gun violence, political polarization…. to New York Times’ columnist David Brooks, these are signs that America is undergoing a new epidemic: social isolation. He joins Ray Suarez to discuss his new book, “How To Know A Person: The Art of Seeing Others Deeply and Being Deeply Seen,” and to unpack how we can rebuild trust and empathy “for the opposition”... by getting to know our neighbors. Guest: , Op-Ed Columnist at The New York Times and author of “How to Know a Person: The Art of Seeing Others Deeply and Being Deeply Seen” Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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Bye Bye Boomers, Hello Perennials
01/01/2024
Bye Bye Boomers, Hello Perennials
While many Baby Boomers have already left the workforce behind, almost half are considering coming out of retirement in search of a new purpose in life. Leading sociologist and business economist Mauro Guillén joins Ray Suarez to explain why the days of “OK Boomer” are coming to an end… and why the future of work will be “post-generational.” Guest: , Vice Dean at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School and author of “The Perennials: The Megatrends Creating a Post Generational Society” Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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From Bethlehem to Kyiv: A Prayer for Peace at Christmas
12/22/2023
From Bethlehem to Kyiv: A Prayer for Peace at Christmas
Christmas is here, but for many Christians around the world, war has cast a shadow over this year’s festivities. To break with Russian orthodoxy and influence, Ukraine will officially observe Christmas on December 25, even as the terror of airstrikes taints the air. And in Bethlehem, the birthplace of Jesus, Palestinian Christians have canceled all celebrations in solidarity with their countrymen under attack in Gaza. Rev. Dr. Munther Isaac, Senior Pastor at The Evangelical Lutheran Christmas Church in Bethlehem, and Bohdan Nahaylo, Chief Editor of Kyiv Post, join Ray Suarez to share what Christmas in wartime looks like, from Palestine to Ukraine. Guests: , Senior Pastor at The Evangelical Lutheran Christmas Church in Bethlehem, Palestine and Academic Dean at the Bethlehem Bible College , Chief Editor at Kyiv Post Host: If you appreciate this episode and want to support the work we do, please consider making a donation to . We cannot do this work without your help. Thank you.
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