James Davolos (Horizon Kinetics) on Betting on Inflation (EP.199)
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Release Date: 03/29/2021
Weekly Roundup 07/11/25 (New BTC ATH, Crypto Week, Zelensky suit scandal) (EP.645)
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Matt and Nic are back for another week of news and deals. In this episode: Bitcoin hits a new ATH and no one is talking about it Grok goes haywire The White House posts chudjak Core Weave looks to buy Core Scientific Stablecoins are going to pay yield anyway Did Zelenskyy wear a suit? How should prediction markets be settled? ICO is coming up Hester Peirce issues a warning on tokenized securities Crypto Week in Congress is coming up Jonathan Gould has been confirmed as Comptroller of the Currency There are new public access vehicles Andreessen wants you to leave Delaware A fundamental...
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Zac Townsend (Meanwhile) on Bitcoin Life Insurance (EP.644)
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, the founder and CEO of , joins the show. In this episode we discuss: Zac’s background and the path that led him to start Meanwhile. The mechanics of Bitcoin denominated life insurance. How Meanwhile generates Bitcoin yield. Zac’s views on the evolution of Bitcoin treasury companies. To learn more about Meanwhile visit
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Charles Hamel (Opera MiniPay) on Globalizing Dollar Access (EP.643)
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Charles Hamel, Product Director at joins the show. In this episode: Stablecoin habits in emerging markets Prospects for local stablecoins What’s next on the stablecoin horizon
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Weekly Roundup 07/04/25 (Tokenized stocks, Crypto Week, BBB passes) (EP.642)
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Matt and Nic are back for another week of news and deals. In this episode: EthCC troubles Robinhood has been shipping Figma owns BTC The House GOP has declared "crypto week" in July Circle and Ripple are applying for bank charters AI companies are buying Bitcoin miners Sharia finance The BBB passes America teeters towards default The Sohan Parekh fiasco How do tokenized stocks work? Another architect of OCP2.0 bites the dust Is AI going to usher in a socialist revolution? Ric Edelman wants you to buy crypto Franklin Templeton is worried about...
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Chris Maurice (Yellow Card) on Stablecoin Adoption in Africa (EP.641)
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Chris Maurice, founder of , a pan-Africa stablecoin business and exchange, rejoins the show. In this episode: How Chris feels about the crypto space in 2025 as compared to when he started a decade ago How Yellow Card evolved from being a retail BTC exchange to being an enterprise payment platform for stablecoins How Chris realized that stablecoins were all about b2b transfers How businesses in EM use stablecoins, and what the alternatives are Regional differences within Africa in terms of stablecoin adoption Shifting regulatory attitudes in Africa Does Chris worry about crypto-dollarization...
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Bernardo Bilotta (Stables Money) on Stablecoin Fintech in APAC (EP.640)
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Wyatt sits down with , founder of In this episode: Stablecoin usage in APAC, for saving, spending, and beyond Retail adoption that bleeds into institutional adoption The forward-looking path for stablecoin finance
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Weekly Roundup 06/27/25 (Bitcoin for mortages, Fiserv adopts stables, Fed drops reputation risk) (EP.639)
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Matt and Nic are back for another week of news and deals. In this episode: Golden age of prediction markets NYC mayor’s election What’s happening with Canton? The FHFA says crypto can be a qualifying asset for mortages Our thoughts on the market structure bill The significance of the Fiserv stablecoin pilot $500m public access vehicle for BNB The Fed drops reputational risk in bank supervision EO for debanking is rumored Kraken HQ is moving to Wyoming Texas buys Bitcoin Will banking hours be obsolete?
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Josh Frank (The Tie) on Crypto Market Intelligence (EP.638)
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, the founder and CEO of joins the show. In this episode we discuss: The origin story behind The Tie and how Josh approached founding the business. The digital asset data market. How sentiment data has evolved in the digital asset industry. The buy-side landscape for digital assets and how Josh sees that evolving in the coming years. The Canton Network and how The Tie is working with this new protocol. To learn more about The Tie visit their .
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Luca Prosperi (M0) on a Universal Stablecoin Platform (EP.637)
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Ria sits down with , CEO and Co-Founder of , a universal stablecoin platform that enables customization while preserving interoperability across assets. In this episode, we cover: Lessons from MakerDAO Drawing inspiration from the dual banking system Building a base asset that is decentralized, permissionless and ossified Issuing opinionated assets via wrapping and extensions while maintaining interoperability
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Weekly Roundup 06/20/25 (GENIUS passes, Nobitex Hack, FUD dice retrospective) (EP.636)
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Matt and Nic are back for another week of news and deals. In this episode: The GENIUS Act passes the Senate Should GENIUS be stapled to market structure? Bessent thinks stablecoins could be $3.7T by 2030 Stablecoin FUD Will stablecoins destabilize the US Treasury market JPM's stablecoin FUDs JPMD's deposit token will launch on Base The future of stablecoin yield in the US Circle hits a $50b market cap Yellowcard partners with Visa in Africa Kraken will launch a token for their Ink L2 Are Walmart and Amazon looking at their own stablecoins? An Iranian crypto exchange is...
info_outlineJames Davolos, VP and portfolio manager at Horizon Kinetics, joins the show to make the case for inflation and to explain their Inflation Beneficiaries ETF, ticker $INFL. In this episode:
- How Horizon and Murray Stahl were one of the earliest asset managers to put client assets in GBTC
- How Horizon's value approach landed them at a Bitcoin allocation
James' reaction when Horizon first made the Bitcoin allocation - Whether Bitcoin is a growth or a value asset, and how to reason about it from either perspective
- James' reaction to Jerome Powell's announcement on rates
- The genesis of the idea to create an inflation beneficiaries ETF
- James' case for inflation
- Should the disinflationists be taking victory laps?
- Why the Fed is calling inflation 'transitory'
- Why we didn't get inflation from 2010-20
- What crystallized the case for inflation for Horizon Kinetics?
- The importance of the 'taper tantrum'
- Why historical parallels are so hard to find – and why we have no historical precedent for our current moment
- How the dollar is the 'least rotten apple'
- The prospects for a non-dollar monetary system
- The effect of ESG on commodity cycles
- How fiscal spending and the political anti-capital movement represents a structural shift
- The constant battle between capital and labor
- Why equities may suffer from higher labor costs
- Why Horizon focuses on asset light companies
- James' answer to the equity-inflation return puzzle
- Horizon's specific allocations to benefit from inflation
- The early success of the Inflation Beneficiaries ETF
- Why the inflation beneficiaries ETF does not contain Bitcoin
- How this ETF sets itself apart from other ways to play inflation – and why TIPS aren't the best bet
- Is the thesis playing out so far?
- Why the Fed has to remain subtle with their debasement
- James' pitch to Bitcoiners