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#43 Tod Schuck on C2 and the C-OODA loop

The Cognitive Crucible

Release Date: 05/18/2021

#237 Josh “Bugsy” Segal on Ukraine, Electronic Warfare, and Fast Battlefield Innovation show art #237 Josh “Bugsy” Segal on Ukraine, Electronic Warfare, and Fast Battlefield Innovation

The Cognitive Crucible

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During this episode, Dr. Tod Schuck of Lockheed Martin discusses Command and Control (C2) and the importance of information maneuverability. Our wide ranging conversation covers Shannon information theory, cybernetics, the evolution of C2, business, the "million dollar microsecond," as well as military applications. We conclude with Schuck’s new formulation of the OODA loop, where he adds an explicit cognitive dimension: the C-OODA loop. Full Show Notes with Resources

Guest BioDr. Tod Schuck received a B.S. in electrical engineering from Georgia Tech in 1989, an M.S. in electrical engineering from Florida Tech in 1994, and a Ph.D. in systems engineering from Stevens Institute of Technology in 2010 concentrating in knowledge representation in distributed, network-centric systems. He has worked extensively solving real-world problems for the Warfighter in the areas of data processing and fusion in cooperative, non-cooperative sensor and C2 systems.

Since 1999, Dr. Schuck has been with Lockheed Martin RMS, where he is currently an LM Fellow specializing in information and knowledge fusion (representation and distribution for surface, air, and missile defense combat systems) and in complex systems architecture and design. 

Dr. Schuck is an adjunct professor at Johns Hopkins University, holding the title of Lecturer in the Whiting School of Engineering and Applied Science, Programs for Professionals; and at Rowan University where he developed and is teaching a course on Command and Control for the Henry M. Rowan College of Engineering – Electrical & Computer Engineering. He has published over 50 papers and conference proceedings and holds two US patents, two Lockheed Martin trade secrets, and has two recent patent applications submitted to the USPTO.

About: The Information Professionals Association (IPA) is a non-profit organization dedicated to exploring the role of information activities, such as influence and cognitive security, within the national security sector and helping to bridge the divide between operations and research. Its goal is to increase interdisciplinary collaboration between scholars and practitioners and policymakers with an interest in this domain.

For more information, please contact us at communications@information-professionals.org.

Or, connect directly with The Cognitive Crucible podcast host, John Bicknell, on LinkedIn.