"The beginning of the end of the Zionist project?" w/ Ilan Pappé
Release Date: 12/13/2023
"They don't see Arabs as human" w/ Alon Mizrahi
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The brothers welcome the writer and podcaster Alon Mizrahi to discuss the Israeli state’s institutionalized and systematic dehumanization of Arabs and Palestinians, the racial hierarchy structuring and defining Israeli society, and the psychopathologies of colonial violence in such a racialized environment. Alon is the host of on YouTube and can also be found on Date of recording: June 23, 2025. Watch the on our YouTube channel Follow us on our socials: X: YouTube: Insta: TikTok: Sign up at to access all the bonus content, ...
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"There was no attack by the Iranians" w/ Trita Parsi
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**Producer's note: This was recorded before the US attack on Iranian nuclear facilities** The brothers welcome returning guest to discuss the unprovoked and illegal attack on Iran, the potential role of the US in joining the Israeli regime's war, and what, if any, possibilities remain for negotiation or de-escalation. Date of recording: June 19, 2025. Watch the on our YouTube channel Follow us on our socials: X: YouTube: Insta: TikTok: Sign up at to access all the bonus content,
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“They literally built a concentration camp on a football stadium” w/ Bassil Mikdadi
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Ahead of the most important football match in the history of Palestine’s national team, on the cusp of potential qualification for the 2026 World Cup, the brothers discuss with , Palestinian journalist and creator of the impact of the ongoing Gaza genocide as well as the deeper context of Palestine national team’s rich journey over many decades, its struggle to assert Palestinian national unity in the face of Israel’s occupation, blockade and policy of fragmentation. We also discuss the grassroots solidarity with Palestinians across the football world and the campaign to kick...
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“Israel is a dependent empire”
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**Producer's note: The brothers are hosting their first livestream this coming TUESDAY (O6/03) at 10 am EST! It will be a so only supporters of the show can submit questions or watch live. Sign up for as little as $5 a month and access all the great bonus content as well** The brothers explore the latest Gaza ceasefire negotiations, the abject failure of the corporate media to cover the crude and explicit expressions of racism and genocidal intent from across the spectrum of Israeli society, the sudden shift among European leaders as they attempt to rhetorically distance themselves from the...
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"Israel is synonymous with the end of the rules-based order" w/ Noura Erakat
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**Producer's note: The brothers are hosting their first livestream! It will be a so only supporters of the show can submit questions or watch live. Sign up for as little as $5 a month and access all the great bonus content** The brothers welcome legal scholar Noura Erekat to the show to discuss how the Gaza genocide has threatened to end the "rules-based international order;” the failure of international legal institutions to take meaningful action to stop the genocide; the collapse of Israel’s standing and reputation in Western societies; and how to retain "infallible optimism" despite...
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"Zionism is an anachronism"
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The brothers discuss the extent to which Trump represents a possible shift in US policy in the Middle East, contrasting the possibility of new deal-making in the Gulf region and elsewhere (Iran, Syria) with the retrograde pull of Zionist pressure to extend the genocide in Gaza and derail the drive towards profit-driven capitalist stabilization in the region. Watch the on our YouTube channel Date of recording: May 15, 2025. Follow us on our socials: X: YouTube: Insta: TikTok: *Sign up at to access all the bonus content, *
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"We were conscripted into the Zionist project" w/ Avi Shlaim
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The brothers welcome preeminent British Israeli historian Avi Shlaim to the show to discuss the richness of Arab Jewish identity, and how the ideology of Zionism is based on the negation and denial of this identity and coexistence, his own family's migration from Iraq to newly-created Israeli state, the reception they received there, and the wider story of Jewish minorities in Iraq and other Arab countries. Shlaim discusses the role Mossad played in the uprooting of Baghdad’s historic Jewish community in the early 1950s and what he sees as the undeniable signs of the implosion from within...
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"Law as a cudgel that you deploy selectively" w/ Sarah Leah Whitson
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The brothers welcome , the Executive Director of Democracy for the Arab World Now (DAWN) and former director of the Middle East and North Africa division of Human Rights Watch, to discuss the role of human rights advocacy amidst the ongoing genocide, the to hold Blinken, Biden, and Lloyd Austin legally accountable, the failure of the ICC, and how Gaza has proven to be the "graveyard" of the "rules-based order." Watch the on our YouTube channel Date of recording: April 8, 2025. Follow us on our socials: X: YouTube: Insta: TikTok: *Sign up...
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"The Israeli disposition is to maximize what it can get" w/ Daniel Levy
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The brothers welcome Daniel Levy, president of the and former negotiator, to discuss how Israelis employ negotiations to pursue their political goals of expansionism, the role of the US as a supposed third-party guarantor, and the growing internal political chaos threatening the Israeli political status quo. Watch the on our YouTube channel Date of recording: April 7, 2025. Follow us on our socials: X: YouTube: Insta: TikTok: *Sign up at to access all the bonus content, *
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"An even worse collaboration than the one before" w/ Abdaljawad Omar
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The brothers welcome Palestinian analyst and researcher Abdaljawad Omar to the show to discuss the nature of the Palestinian Authority's collaborative dealings with the Israeli occupation, how it compares against other examples of collaboration historically, how supporters of the PA regime view their role through the prism of national liberation, and why Palestinians in the West Bank are not able to do more to fight colonial expansion. Check out Abduljawad's recent and Watch the on our Youtube channel Date of recording: April 1st, 2025. Follow us on our socials: X: ...
info_outlineIn this episode, the brothers interview the historian Ilan Pappé, best known for his 2006 book The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, in order to gain some historical perspective on the catastrophe unfolding in Gaza as well as what the current situation tells us about shifting global and local attitudes and even how one can start to anticipate the terminal stage of the Zionist project in Palestine—and what that means for the future.
Date of recording: December 12, 2023.
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