"The beginning of the end of the Zionist project?" w/ Ilan Pappé
Release Date: 12/13/2023
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The brothers welcome to the show , who grew up in the city of Deir el Balah in the Gaza Strip and now heads the Gaza Genocide Center. They discuss what it was like to grow up under occupation in Gaza, what normal life was like for a generation under siege, isolated and cut off from the world. They discuss the ongoing Gaza genocide, still being perpetrated by Israel (though it is no longer being covered in Western media), the conditions for yet again displaced Palestinians living in the aftermath of Israel’s destruction of Gaza and in the deliberate limbo covered up by Trump’s...
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The brothers welcome to the show , journalist and editor of the Carnegie Middle East Center’s Diwan blog, to discuss the vexed and controversial question of Lebanese-Israeli negotiations against the background of the continued Israeli bombardment and occupation of Lebanese territory and the deliberate destruction of entire towns along Lebanon’s southern border. Date of recording: April 28, 2026 Watch the on our YouTube channel Follow us on our socials: X: YouTube: Insta: TikTok: Sign up at to access all the bonus content,
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**Producer's note: This is a special co-published episode with , hosted by Makdisi Street guest Make sure to subscribe to her channel if you haven't already!!** In this episode, I sit down with Makdisi Street podcast hosts and brothers, Karim, Ussama and Saree Makdisi to discuss the current situation in Lebanon. We get into a lot, as you can imagine, including the US and Zionist interventionism in Lebanon, their attempt to foment sectarian hate and violence, internalized Arabophobia (and other potential explanations) and, importantly, how we believe they have not succeeded in...
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The brothers welcome of the Arab Center in Washington, DC to the show to discuss the US-Israeli war on Iran and Lebanon, the role of the Zionist lobby and the nature of the relationship between the US and Israel, rapidly shifting attitudes on Israel and the Palestinians among the American public, the ferocious crackdown on dissent and protest against Israeli apartheid and genocide, and prospects for the urgent renewal of the anti-apartheid campaign for boycotts, divestments and sanctions. Date of recording: Apr 14, 2026 Watch the on our YouTube channel Follow us on our socials:...
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The brothers welcome University of Exeter Professor to the show to discuss the geopolitical and geoeconomic contexts of the US-Israeli war of aggression on Iran, including the role of Iran and the Gulf in global energy and trade markets and circuits; shifts in international trade and finance away from circuits controlled by the US and its coercive mechanisms of financial and trade sanctions; the gradual dismantling of US sanctions regime; Iran’s destruction of US bases, radar systems and other military infrastructure in and around the Gulf; the role of the Arab Gulf states; the reshaping of...
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The brothers welcome the human rights advocate Omar Shakir to the show to discuss the legal basis for the Palestinian right of return, Israel’s crime against humanity for denying the right of return, the ongoing attempt to recuperate a “good Israel” of 1948 from a “bad Israel” of 1967, the approaches and limitations of human rights work, and his recent resignation from Human Rights Watch as a result of the decision to withhold a new report on the right of return. Date of recording: Feb 11, 2026 Watch the on our YouTube channel Follow us on our socials: X: ...
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The brothers convene to discuss the US-Israeli attack on Iran, Israel’s bombardment of Lebanon, the positions and alignments within Lebanon, Iran’s objectives in the containing and responding to the attack, and the Israelis’ sense that they are losing America and hence face a last chance opportunity to take advantage of American power to try to impose control over the region—a risky project of domination that faces considerable resistance. Date of recording: Mar 17, 2026 Watch the on our YouTube channel Follow us on our socials: X: YouTube: Insta: ...
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The brothers are joined by the award-winning Lebanese investigative journalist Hala Jaber ( to discuss the ongoing Israeli war on Lebanon in the context of the US-Israeli war on Iran, the timing of the unexpectedly strong re-emergence of Hizballah following 15 months of Israeli violations of the Nov 2024 ceasefire, the humanitarian catastrophe and displacement of hundreds of thousands from the south and the suburbs of Beirut, and the reasons for the Lebanese government’s unprecedented decision to outlaw Hizbullah military and security parts even as Israel prepared for invasion. Date of...
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***Note: This was recorded on the eve of Israel’s expansion of its ongoing bombardment and destruction of Lebanon*** The brothers welcome the Lebanese investigative journalist Jad Ghosn to the show to discuss the internal tensions and crises in Lebanon on the eve of Israel’s expansion of its ongoing destruction of the country. They discuss the Lebanese sectarian system dominated by oligarchs and warlords, the financial crisis overseen by the country’s bankers and politicians, who were never held to account for the ponzi scheme they ran at the expense of ordinary depositors...
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The brothers welcome the London-based Iranian analyst and journalist to the show to discuss the history and context of the US-Israeli attack on Iran, internal dynamics within post-revolution Iran, the background of and political framework of negotiations over Iran’s nuclear program, and the scope and scale of damage being inflicted by US and Israeli forces on Iran as the current war assumes an increasingly attritional character, as well as Iran’s capacity to retaliate against Israel and US assets and bases in and around the Gulf. Date of recording: Mar 4, 2026 Watch the on our...
info_outlineIn this episode, the brothers interview the historian Ilan Pappé, best known for his 2006 book The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, in order to gain some historical perspective on the catastrophe unfolding in Gaza as well as what the current situation tells us about shifting global and local attitudes and even how one can start to anticipate the terminal stage of the Zionist project in Palestine—and what that means for the future.
Date of recording: December 12, 2023.
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