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Fly Fishing Insider Podcast

Release Date: 09/27/2024

Fly Fishing In Rivers to Exploring Saltwater in Mexico show art Fly Fishing In Rivers to Exploring Saltwater in Mexico

Fly Fishing Insider Podcast

Go to to explore the latest app available, which is fly fishing exclusive and will truly improve your outings.  In this episode, host Christian Bacasa interviews Rick Passek, a fly fisherman with experience in both stillwater and saltwater fishing. Rick shares his journey from fly fishing in rivers to exploring saltwater fishing in Mexico. He also discusses his passion for fly tying and his YouTube channel, FlyFish Fanatic. Throughout the conversation, Rick emphasizes the importance of observation and learning from experienced fishermen. The episode concludes with a discussion about the...

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How Hunters and Anglers Play a Role in Preserving Wildlife show art How Hunters and Anglers Play a Role in Preserving Wildlife

Fly Fishing Insider Podcast

Go to to explore the latest app available, which is fly fishing exclusive and will truly improve your outings.  John Stallone discusses the importance of conservation and how hunters and anglers play a role in preserving wildlife. He introduces How for Wildlife, an organization that provides tools for hunters and anglers to voice their opinions to policyholders. The organization also drives national awareness and educates the public about the benefits of hunting and fishing. Stallone emphasizes the need for factual-based arguments and the importance of showcasing the intrinsic values of...

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Bass Fishing in the Mississippi River show art Bass Fishing in the Mississippi River

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  Go to to explore the latest app available, which is fly fishing exclusive and will truly improve your outings. In this episode of the Fly Fishing Insider podcast, host Christian Bacasa interviews Kip Vieth from Wildwood Float Trips. They discuss bass fishing in the Mississippi River and the unique characteristics of the fishery. The conversation covers topics such as water temperatures, fish behavior, fly patterns, and fishing techniques. Kip shares his insights and experiences as a guide in the area, providing valuable information for anglers interested in smallmouth bass fishing....

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Fly Fishing for Bonefish, Tarpon, and Permit in Belize show art Fly Fishing for Bonefish, Tarpon, and Permit in Belize

Fly Fishing Insider Podcast

  Go to to explore the latest app available, which is fly fishing exclusive and will truly improve your outings. In this episode, James Johnson discusses fly fishing for bonefish, tarpon, and permit in Belize. He emphasizes the precision and visual cues required for flats fishing, where anglers cast to fish they can see. Johnson explains how to spot nervous water and the different ways fish react to flies. He also shares tips on casting and presentation techniques for each species, including the use of shrimp, crab, and baitfish patterns. Overall, the conversation provides valuable...

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The Mission to Catch All Salmonoid Species show art The Mission to Catch All Salmonoid Species

Fly Fishing Insider Podcast

Go to to explore the latest app available, which is fly fishing exclusive and will truly improve your outings. Tad Murdock is on a mission to catch all salmonid species, and he has caught around 40 out of the 50 species so far. He started fly fishing eight years ago after growing up bass fishing. Tad has done a lot of research and learned a lot along the way, which has made him a better angler. He now works as a guide in Georgia and enjoys exploring smaller waters. Tad's go-to technique is the dry dropper, and he prefers a nine-foot five-weight rod for its versatility. He also emphasizes the...

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Fly Fishing Journey and How He Keeps His Passion Alive show art Fly Fishing Journey and How He Keeps His Passion Alive

Fly Fishing Insider Podcast

Go to to explore the latest app available, which is fly fishing exclusive and will truly improve your outings. In this episode, host Christian Bacasa interviews Joel Stoehr about his fly fishing journey and how he keeps his passion alive through new endeavors. Joel shares his background growing up in the Catskills and transitioning from trout fishing to saltwater fishing in New York City. He discusses the challenges and excitement of sight fishing for redfish in Louisiana and tarpon in Key West. Joel emphasizes the importance of trying new fishing experiences to keep the passion for fly...

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Turning Guiding to a Future Career show art Turning Guiding to a Future Career

Fly Fishing Insider Podcast

Go to to explore the latest app available, which is fly fishing exclusive and will truly improve your outings. Dan Hoffman, a former fishing guide and chief of police, shares his journey from guiding to a potential future career. He wrote a book called 'An Alaska Fly Fisher's Odyssey' that explores the relationship between fly fishing and various aspects of life. Dan emphasizes the importance of recognizing and leveraging the transferable skills and attributes gained from being a guide. He advises guides to identify their strengths, seek continuing education, and reach out to former clients...

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Trout Angler Destinations Recommended by Orvis show art Trout Angler Destinations Recommended by Orvis

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Go to to explore the latest app available, which is fly fishing exclusive and will truly improve your outings.  In this episode, Seth Berger from Orvis discusses his favorite fishing destinations and provides recommendations for trout anglers looking to expand their horizons. He highlights the diversity of fishing in Chile, the accessibility and beauty of Yellowstone, the incredible fishing opportunities in Belize, and the unique experience of fishing in Iceland. Seth also emphasizes the importance of confidence in fly selection and shares tips for preparing for a fishing trip. He...

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Pennsylvania Muskie Fly Fishing show art Pennsylvania Muskie Fly Fishing

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Go to to explore the latest app available that is fly fishing exclusive and will truly improve your outings.   In this episode of the Fly Fishing Insider podcast, host Christian Bacasa interviews Dominic Petruzzi about fishing for predator fish in Pennsylvania, particularly muskie. They discuss the changes in muskie fishing in Pennsylvania over the years and the efforts to improve the muskie population. Dominic shares his experiences and tips for fishing muskie in moving water, emphasizing the importance of understanding muskie behavior and targeting their preferred locations. He also...

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The Importance of the Captain’s Position in Raft, Drift or Jet Boat show art The Importance of the Captain’s Position in Raft, Drift or Jet Boat

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Go to to explore the latest app available, which is fly fishing exclusive and will truly improve your outings. In this episode, Christian Bacasa interviews Brett Lowry, the founder of Trout Boat Cap'n. They discuss the importance of seat height in rowing and the benefits of using the Trout Boat Cap'n seat. Brett shares his experience of starting the company and how it has improved the comfort and efficiency of rowing. They also talk about fishing in the Illinois River and striper fishing in the tailwaters. Finally, they discuss smallmouth fishing in the upper Illinois River and the techniques...

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In this episode of the Fly Fishing Insider Podcast, host Christian Bacasa interviews Kevin Sloan from Squala Fishing. They discuss swinging for trout using spay rods and the efficiency and adaptability of this technique. Kevin shares his experience and tips for fishing different types of water, including long runs and small streams. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the behavior of the fish and adapting your setup accordingly. They also discuss the benefits of spay casting, such as the ability to cover more water and the immersive experience it provides. In this conversation, Kevin Sloasn shares his techniques for swinging flies for trout. He emphasizes the importance of covering a lot of water and varying the presentation to find what the fish want. He suggests using different retrieves, such as bouncing the rod or stripping the fly, and experimenting with different fly patterns. Kevin also discusses the importance of washing gear, particularly waders, to maintain their performance and longevity. He recommends using technical washes and retreatment with DWR to keep gear clean and functioning properly. Finally, he advises against using heavy chemicals or DIY repairs for waders, and instead suggests sending them to professionals for repair.
 
Takeaways
  • Swinging for trout with spay rods is an efficient and adaptable technique that allows you to cover more water.
  • Understanding the behavior of the fish and adapting your setup accordingly is crucial for successful spay fishing.
  • Different water types require different approaches, such as targeting slow walking speed water in the early season and riffles during hatches.
  • Spay casting provides a more immersive and engaging experience, with a focus on rhythm and feel.
  • Seeking advice from local fly shops and experienced anglers can help you learn and improve your spay fishing skills. When swinging flies for trout, it's important to cover a lot of water and vary the presentation to find what the fish want.
  • Experiment with different retrieves, such as bouncing the rod or stripping the fly, to entice strikes.
  • Washing gear, especially waders, is crucial for maintaining performance and longevity. Use technical washes and retreatment with DWR to keep gear clean and functioning properly.
  • Avoid using heavy chemicals or DIY repairs for waders. Instead, send them to professionals for repair.
Titles
  • Adapting to Different Water Types
  • The Immersive Experience of Spay Casting The Importance of Varying Fly Presentation
  • Maintaining Gear Performance through Washing
Sound Bites
  • "It's really relaxing... you get into this, like, thinking about the currents, thinking about the drift... I think there's more things going on here that you're thinking about than that cast."
  • "More is not always better... it's about really effectively and efficiently covering water."
  • "You really gotta pay attention to maybe not what you want to fish, but what the fish want to do."
  • "I'm probably taking one step between every cast. And then trying to do the same cast every time."
  • "Sometimes they want it slow and really smooth. Sometimes they want it to bounce."
  • "I always love a slow, slow lift and a drop. It's amazing how many times you're like, oh yeah, I did that, I did that. And then like the third lift, you're like, oh yeah, there goes one."
Chapters
00:00Introduction and Overview
06:08Choosing the Right Spay Rod and Line
13:05Benefits and Challenges of Spay Casting
28:59Step and Swing Methodology for Trout Fishing
36:19Varying Fly Presentation for Success
47:03Addressing Leaks and Repairs for Waders