M&A Roll-Up Playbook: The IRR Framework That Replaced Budgets at Zayo | Dan Caruso (Part 2)
Release Date: 04/09/2026
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Due diligence covers deal terms, but it doesn't cover what happens once you're running payroll, benefits, and banking in a country you've never operated in before. A legal entity change can lock a company out of its own bank account overnight. Benefits plans get frozen in by local law. A language rollout can hit five systems on the same go-live day. And having handled one acquisition in a country doesn't guarantee the next one plays out the same way. Jennifer Lipschultz has led integration on more than 20 acquisitions across the Netherlands, Sweden, Germany, and India for ECI Software...
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AI talent deals are no longer small acquihires built around a simple price per engineer. Some now carry billion-dollar price tags, forcing buyers to rethink deal structure, diligence, tax exposure, and retention. Baker McKenzie’s M&A Partner Derek Liu has personally signed over $110 billion in transactions from both sides of the table. That mismatch, old tools built for a different kind of deal, is what's forcing corp dev and legal teams to rework their playbook, and it's the throughline of this conversation. What You'll Learn The real cost difference between a stock purchase, an asset...
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What Buyers Want from Bankers and Founders
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Your standard teaser tells a buyer everything about your company and nothing about why you fit their strategy right now. When sellers expect the buyer to figure out that alignment, the deal dies on the desk. Andrew Morbitzer has led more than $2 billion in acquisitions at Intuit and GoDaddy, worked on the sell-side as an M&A advisor, and returned to the buy-side as VP of Corporate Development at Life360. What You'll Learn Why do corp dev teams default to no on inbound deals before the first conversation How banker incentives and buyer incentives point in opposite directions How to...
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info_outlineDan Caruso, Managing Director, Caruso Ventures; Founding CEO of Zayo Group
This is Part 2 of our conversation with Dan Caruso, founder and former CEO of Zayo Group. Be sure to start with Part 1. It covers the Zayo thesis, deal sourcing, structure, and the negotiation playbook, whereas this episode picks up at the execution.
Part 2 is about the equity value-creation framework Dan built at Zayo, applying the same IRR math PE firms use for their portfolio companies to daily operating decisions. It replaced budgets and tied every compensation decision to a single equation. It ends with the exit and how Dan put together a competing bid after a buyer consortium locked up the debt market.
What You'll Learn
- How Zayo's integration process matured across 45 deals + where it broke post- IPO
- The equity value creation model: the IRR metric that replaced budgets and tied compensation to a single equation
- Negotiation tactics: countering lower, manufacturing urgency, and splitting the CEO from their investor at the table
- Culture during integration: one culture, take it or leave it
- IRR compression as a sell signal and how Dan acted on it before most saw it coming
- The sell process: engineering a competing bid after buyers locked up the debt market
- The ICG deal: $8.7M in, $250M out, 18 months
Want to apply Dan's framework to your own business? The Intelligence Hub has the Equity Value Creation Operating Model, a step-by-step guide to replacing budget-based management with IRR as your operating compass. Access here.
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Episode Chapters
[00:02:28] Public company vs. private: what changed about deal execution.
[00:03:40] Negotiation tactics: countering lower, manufacturing urgency, the CEO-investor wedge.
[00:08:15] Integration maturity: how execution evolved across 45+ deals.
[00:18:43] Culture: join us or don't.
[00:20:35] Going public: super voting shares, activist investors, and the PR game Dan skipped.
[00:24:40] Post-IPO talent drain and what Dan would restructure in management equity.
[00:29:26] When to sell: reading value compression.
[00:33:03] The sell process: competing bid against a cornered debt market.
[00:39:18] The equity value creation model: replacing budgets with IRR.
[00:43:29] IRR as a real-time operating metric.
[00:49:50] Cruso Ventures, quantum, space, and Boulder Roots Music Fest.
[01:01:06] The ICG deal: $8.7M in, $250M out