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An Imperfect Leader: The Superintendents and Leadership Podcast

Some conversations stay with you long after the recording ends. My conversation with  is one of those.  In this encore episode, Dr. Hamlett, former superintendent of Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools and now Chief Equity & Development Officer for Montgomery County Public Schools, offers a deeply honest reflection on leadership under pressure.  Here are three themes leaders should listen for: 1. “Don’t Flinch” Leadership: Listen for how Nyah defines leadership as choosing courage over convenience, especially when decisions are uncomfortable or...

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An Imperfect Leader: The Superintendents and Leadership Podcast

What happens when you trade a massive suburban district for a rural community with only 1,200 students? According to my latest guest, it might just be the best career move you’ll ever make. I recently sat down with , former acting Assistant Secretary of the US Department of Education and author of . James shared how cutting his teeth in a small rural district forced him to do "every job"—from HR and finance to literally walking through the mud to assess construction sites. We went deep on how that "boots on the ground" experience prepared him for state and national leadership, and why he...

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An Imperfect Leader: The Superintendents and Leadership Podcast

What happens when you trade a massive suburban district for a rural community with only 1,200 students? According to my latest guest, it might just be the best career move you’ll ever make. I recently sat down with , former acting Assistant Secretary of the US Department of Education and author of . James shared how cutting his teeth in a small rural district forced him to do "every job"—from HR and finance to literally walking through the mud to assess construction sites. We went deep on how that "boots on the ground" experience prepared him for state and national leadership, and why he...

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An Imperfect Leader: The Superintendents and Leadership Podcast

If you feel like your "number one love"—instructional leadership—is constantly being pushed to the background by budget spreadsheets, you aren’t alone. I recently had a fantastic conversation with (Columbia University's Teachers College) and (Seton Hall University) about the . We did some serious "myth-busting" that every school leader and board member needs to hear. Here are 3 themes from our talk to keep on your radar: The Money Matters Paradox: While most superintendents identify as instructional leaders, 54% reported that finance issues actually consume the bulk of their...

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An Imperfect Leader: The Superintendents and Leadership Podcast

If you feel like your "number one love"—instructional leadership—is constantly being pushed to the background by budget spreadsheets, you aren’t alone. I recently had a fantastic conversation with (Columbia University's Teachers College) and (Seton Hall University) about the . We did some serious "myth-busting" that every school leader and board member needs to hear. Here are 3 themes from our talk to keep on your radar: The Money Matters Paradox: While most superintendents identify as instructional leaders, 54% reported that finance issues actually consume the bulk of their...

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An Imperfect Leader: The Superintendents and Leadership Podcast

Is the era of the public school monopoly officially dead? According to my guest, , the answer is a resounding yes. And if school leaders don't adapt, they risk becoming "dinosaurs." Brian is a combat veteran, attorney, and the leader of CAISSA K-12, a firm that has helped return over 30,000 students to traditional public schools. In our conversation, we tackled the hard truth about declining enrollment and how districts can reclaim their narrative in a competitive market. Here are themes from our talk that every educator and superintendent should hear: Accepting the End of the Monopoly:...

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An Imperfect Leader: The Superintendents and Leadership Podcast

Is the era of the public school monopoly officially dead? According to my guest, , the answer is a resounding yes. And if school leaders don't adapt, they risk becoming "dinosaurs." Brian is a combat veteran, attorney, and the leader of CAISSA K-12, a firm that has helped return over 30,000 students to traditional public schools. In our conversation, we tackled the hard truth about declining enrollment and how districts can reclaim their narrative in a competitive market. Here are themes from our talk that every educator and superintendent should hear: Accepting the End of the...

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An Imperfect Leader: The Superintendents and Leadership Podcast

Are we settling for "belonging" in our schools while leaving student brainpower underdeveloped? I recently had a deep, transformative conversation with , author of . We moved past the surface-level "equity talk" to discuss what it really takes to move a student from a dependent learner to a cognitively independent one. Zaretta’s insights on cognitive justice and intelligent failure are essential. Here are 3 themes from our talk that will matter to leaders: Cognitive Justice is the True Moral Imperative: Equity isn't just about celebrating flags or hosting potlucks....

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An Imperfect Leader: The Superintendents and Leadership Podcast

Are we settling for "belonging" in our schools while leaving student brainpower underdeveloped? I recently had a deep, transformative conversation with , author of . We moved past the surface-level "equity talk" to discuss what it really takes to move a student from a dependent learner to a cognitively independent one. Zaretta’s insights on cognitive justice and intelligent failure are essential. Here are 3 themes from our talk that will matter to leaders: Cognitive Justice is the True Moral Imperative: Equity isn't just about celebrating flags or hosting potlucks. Zaretta challenges us to...

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What does it actually mean to be a "resilient" leader? Is it just about weathering the storm, or is it about what you build while the storm is still raging? I recently had a conversation with , Executive Director of the National Rural Education Association and author of . Melissa has spent over 30 years as a teacher, principal, and superintendent, and she deeply understands the unique, multiplex relationships that define rural education. Whether you lead a small rural district or a large urban system, Melissa’s insights on leading through loss and building authentic credibility are...

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Some conversations stay with you long after the recording ends. My conversation with Dr. Nyah Hamlett is one of those. 

In this encore episode, Dr. Hamlett, former superintendent of Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools and now Chief Equity & Development Officer for Montgomery County Public Schools, offers a deeply honest reflection on leadership under pressure. 

Here are three themes leaders should listen for:

1. “Don’t Flinch” Leadership: Listen for how Nyah defines leadership as choosing courage over convenience, especially when decisions are uncomfortable or unpopular.

2. Student Voice as Shared Power (Not a Checkbox): Listen for how student voice can sharpen decisions, even when leaders don’t ultimately go the students’ way. 

3. Imperfect Leadership, Vulnerability, and Accountability: Listen closely to Nyah’s after-action reflection. It’s a masterclass in humility, learning in real time, and leading as a human being, especially when systems and personal wellbeing collide. 

This episode is a reminder that leadership is not about perfection. It’s about integrity, reflection, and the willingness to stand firm without flinching.

#DontFlinch #CourageOverConvenience #AuthenticLeadership #VulnerabilityInLeadership #EducationalLeadership #Superintendents #PublicEducation #EdLeadership #EquityInEducation #StudentVoice #RestorativePractices #SystemsThinking #EquityAndEmpathy #ImperfectLeader #PodcastRoleNetwork #LeadLearner #Podcasserole

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An Imperfect Leader: Leadership in (After) Action is supported by ILAA, LLC, a firm dedicated to supporting aspiring, new, and established leaders. For more information, please find them at imperfectleader.com.

Music for An Imperfect Leader was written and arranged by Ian Varley.

Sam Falbo created our artwork, a wood-print inspired daruma doll butterfly.