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How To Protect The Ocean

Release Date: 08/14/2026

The Trapdoor That Saves Sea Turtles From Shrimp Nets show art The Trapdoor That Saves Sea Turtles From Shrimp Nets

How To Protect The Ocean

A Kemp’s ridley sea turtle, the most endangered sea turtle on Earth, gets swept into a shrimp trawl. It hits a metal grid, slides out through a flap in the net, and swims away. That small trapdoor, the turtle excluder device, is one of the biggest success stories in fisheries management, and in late August 2026 a US federal appeals court upheld the rule extending it to skimmer trawl boats 40 feet and longer. In this episode, marine biologist Andrew Lewin walks through the bycatch fixes that are working and the fights still underway. You’ll hear why North Atlantic right whales get tangled...

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The Cod Came Back: What a Fishery Collapse Teaches Us About Overfishing show art The Cod Came Back: What a Fishery Collapse Teaches Us About Overfishing

How To Protect The Ocean

Five centuries ago, explorers off Newfoundland described cod so plentiful that a weighted basket lowered into the sea came back full. By July 2, 1992, so few remained that Canada shut the northern cod fishery overnight. About 30,000 people lost their work in what became the largest single layoff in Canadian history. In this first episode of a week-long sustainable seafood series, Andrew tells the story of how the collapse happened and how slowly the cod came back. Andrew then breaks down the words that cause the most confusion in fisheries headlines: overfishing, overfished, depleted, and...

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How to Choose Sustainable Seafood show art How to Choose Sustainable Seafood

How To Protect The Ocean

You want to eat seafood the right way. Then you hit the seafood counter and face a wall of labels, a sign promising “sustainable practices,” and an employee who has no idea where the tuna came from. Add documentaries like Seaspiracy telling you to quit fish entirely, and it’s tempting to give up and buy whatever looks good. Unsustainable fishing is the biggest threat to marine biodiversity, so those choices carry real weight. In this episode, Andrew’s good friend Dr. David Shiffman joins the show to talk about his new book, Why Sustainable Seafood Matters. David spent two years on the...

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Slow Down for Whales: How Global Shipping Learned to Share the Ocean show art Slow Down for Whales: How Global Shipping Learned to Share the Ocean

How To Protect The Ocean

Blue whales can’t dodge ships. When scientists tracked blue whales alongside cargo ships off Southern California, the whales responded in just over half the encounters, and every response was the same: a slow, shallow dive. Not once did a whale move sideways out of the ship’s path. Models suggest ships kill around 18 blue whales a year off the U.S. West Coast, nearly eight times what the population can lose and still recover. The good news is in the data. Most blue whale strike deaths happen in a small slice of ocean, and that’s where ports, air quality agencies, marine sanctuaries, and...

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When Whale Food Moves: Climate Change, Crab Traps, and Pop-Up Gear show art When Whale Food Moves: Climate Change, Crab Traps, and Pop-Up Gear

How To Protect The Ocean

In 2014, a patch of unusually warm water nicknamed "the blob" settled off the west coast of North America. The cold, food-rich water that normally stretches far offshore shrank into a narrow strip along the coast, and hungry humpback whales followed their food straight into the waters where Dungeness crabbers had set thousands of traps, each tied to a vertical rope. Entanglements jumped from about 10 a year to 53 in 2015 and 55 in 2016. In this episode, Andrew traces the line from warmer water to a specific whale in a specific rope. You'll learn why lunge-feeding whales depend on dense patches...

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The Whale Heart That Beats Twice a Minute show art The Whale Heart That Beats Twice a Minute

How To Protect The Ocean

Fill your hands with cold water, hold your breath, and press your face in. Your heart slows within seconds. That reflex lives in every whale in the ocean too, and in a blue whale it is pushed so far that the largest heart on Earth can drop to two beats a minute on a deep dive. In this episode, Andrew walks through the first heart rate recording from a wild blue whale, led by Jeremy Goldbogen's team at Stanford, and a study by Terrie Williams of UC Santa Cruz that tracked narwhals fleeing after release from nets in East Greenland. The narwhals swam as hard as they could while their hearts fell...

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The Biggest Mouthful: How Blue Whales Eat and Why Krill Matters show art The Biggest Mouthful: How Blue Whales Eat and Why Krill Matters

How To Protect The Ocean

A blue whale can swallow a volume of water bigger than its own body in a single gulp. That move, called lunge feeding, is one of the most extreme feats in the animal kingdom, and it only pays off when krill is packed into thick, dense swarms. In a thin patch, a blue whale gets back about six times the energy it spent. In a dense swarm, it gets back more than 200 times. In this first episode of the Age of Giants series, Andrew breaks down how rorqual whales feed, then follows the krill. In 2025, the Antarctic krill fishery hit its 620,000 tonne precautionary limit for the first time and closed...

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Whales Are Sprinters: What a Blue Whale's Heart Does When It Lunge Feeds show art Whales Are Sprinters: What a Blue Whale's Heart Does When It Lunge Feeds

How To Protect The Ocean

What happens to the heart of the largest animal on Earth when it charges into a swarm of krill? Dr. Ashley Blawas, a postdoctoral scholar in Jeremy Goldbogen's lab at Stanford's Hopkins Marine Station, joins Andrew to unpack new research published in PNAS that measured the heart rates of lunge-feeding blue whales and humpback whales using suction-cup ECG tags. Ashley explains the three phases of lunge feeding (accelerate, engulf, filter) and why these giants behave a lot like human sprinters. Their heart rates stay high after each lunge, then gradually recover while they glide and filter,...

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The Pollution That Breeds: How the Great Lakes Stopped Invaders show art The Pollution That Breeds: How the Great Lakes Stopped Invaders

How To Protect The Ocean

In 1988, someone found a striped mussel the size of a fingernail in Lake St. Clair. Within a few years, zebra mussels coated pipes, boats, and the bottom of the Great Lakes, and they became the poster child for "it's too late." Andrew closes Marine Pollution week with the pollutant that breaks every rule: a living one that reproduces instead of diluting. He follows two invaders. Zebra mussels rode in on ship ballast water, clogged power plant intakes, and stripped plankton from the base of the food web. Lionfish, likely released from home aquariums, spread from Florida across the Caribbean and...

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How Beach Cleanup Data Helped Canada Ban Plastic show art How Beach Cleanup Data Helped Canada Ban Plastic

How To Protect The Ocean

You rinse the yogurt tub, check the number on the bottom, and drop it in the blue bin. In Canada, only about 9% of plastic waste actually gets recycled, and the global rate is the same. Andrew breaks down why plastic is so hard to recycle, why microplastics are so hard to study, and what the controversy over plastic-in-the-brain headlines does and doesn't tell us. Then the story moves to a beach in Stanley Park in 1994, where Vancouver Aquarium staff and volunteers started picking up trash and writing down what they found. That cleanup grew into a national program, and its data fed into the...

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Science communication has a blind spot: it keeps putting the same faces in front of the microphone. In this episode, Andrew talks with Amy Weldon, host and executive producer of the podcast Blue Collar White Coat, about why she built an entire show around the people science coverage usually skips. Amy spent 15 years in science communications, starting at the National Aquarium in Baltimore, and now uses that background to track down the electricians, dive supervisors, ship repair technicians, and life-support operators who keep ocean and space research running.

The conversation covers why Amy chose podcasting over blogging or short-form video to reach people who aren't already interested in science, what changed between her first and second season of guest outreach, and how she gets nervous first-time interviewees comfortable enough to open up. Andrew and Amy also compare notes on the mechanics of podcasting itself: editing habits, the reality of "pod fade," and what Joe Rogan's career actually teaches other podcasters (hint: it's not SEO). They close with a preview of Amy's stacked second season lineup and a shared preview of November's International Marine Conservation Congress in Edinburgh.

If you've ever wondered who actually keeps a NASA clean room running, or why the person who cleans your aquarium's fish tanks might have a better story than the PhD next to them, this episode is for you.

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Takeaways:

  • Amy Weldon built Blue Collar White Coat to interview the people who make science and conservation possible without holding a PhD themselves — electricians, dive supervisors, ship repair techs, aquarium life-support staff.
  • Podcasting appealed to Amy because it reaches audiences who aren't already interested in science, the way radio once did across demographics.
  • The hardest part of running an interview podcast is logistics and scheduling, not content; the easiest part is that people are eager to talk once you make it easy for them.
  • Pre-interview calls and sending questions in advance dramatically lowers guest anxiety, especially for first-time interviewees unused to a microphone.
  • Season two of Blue Collar White Coat leans further into skilled trades, featuring NASA facilities staff, three different aquariums, and a Norfolk, Virginia naval ship repair yard.
  • Andrew and Amy will both present at the International Marine Conservation Congress (IMCC8) in Edinburgh, Scotland this November.

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