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#109 Charlie: I’m Done with Growing

The Next Chapter with Charlie

Release Date: 04/24/2019

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The Next Chapter with Charlie

My guest today is Chris Avery. With a humble but steadily growing community of 5,000 Christian men, Chris Avery brings a grounded voice to topics like discipline, fatherhood, and the gritty side of spiritual growth. Chris wasn’t born with unshakeable confidence. He’s walked through the valley of fear, experienced doubt, and rebuilt himself one mile at a time (which we will talk about more as the show proceeds). Chris has coached more than a thousand people, helping men find clarity, resilience, and deeper identity in Christ.  Let’s find out more as we bring Chris Avery on the show!

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The Next Chapter with Charlie

My guest today is Chris Avery. With a humble but steadily growing community of 5,000 Christian men, Chris Avery brings a grounded voice to topics like discipline, fatherhood, and the gritty side of spiritual growth. Chris wasn’t born with unshakeable confidence. He’s walked through the valley of fear, experienced doubt, and rebuilt himself one mile at a time (which we will talk about more as the show proceeds). Chris has coached more than a thousand people, helping men find clarity, resilience, and deeper identity in Christ.  Let’s find out more as we bring Chris Avery on the show!

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My guest today is friend and poet Steve Garnass-Holmes.   Steve Garnass-Holmes’s life is rich in thought and in experience. Talking to Steve is like talking to a writer of wisdom literature. Today we will begin the show by addressing the question, “What does it really mean to follow Jesus?” Is it a heart or head issue? The heart says to love while the head becomes laden with thoughts of being right. But there is really only one way to be right and that is To Love. Steve Garnass-Holmes will challenge what you may believe and then encourage you with one simple truth. Let’s find out...

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The Next Chapter with Charlie

My guest today is friend and poet Steve Garnass-Holmes.   Steve Garnass-Holmes’s life is rich in thought and in experience. Talking to Steve is like talking to a writer of wisdom literature. Today we will begin the show by addressing the question, “What does it really mean to follow Jesus?” Is it a heart or head issue? The heart says to love while the head becomes laden with thoughts of being right. But there is really only one way to be right and that is To Love. Steve Garnass-Holmes will challenge what you may believe and then encourage you with one simple truth. Let’s find out...

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Show Notes  Today we are chatting with Ken Wortley, author of The Gospel of Secrets which is a daring, heartfelt memoir of truth, liberation, and love. From the pulpit to personal revelation, Ken shares his journey as a pastor who spent decades preaching faith while silently wrestling with personal identity issues. In this powerful conversation, we engage in a moving dialogue about courage, healing, and living with no secrets left to hide. With that let’s bring Ken Wortley on the show! LINKS Check out Ken Wortley’s book: The Gospel of Secrets: A Memoir of Truth, Liberation, and Love,...

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Show Notes  Welcome friends to the Next Chapter with Charlie. On a recent blog I wrote the following note… “On my last trip (3 weeks in Asia), I discovered a new mantra for taking time away from home. “I no longer go on vacations to sight-see. Instead, I take pilgrimages to experience wonder.” What if I made that my mantra for every single day? “Anticipate little except moments of surprise and wonder.” And so with this, I chat with author, teacher, and landscape architect, Terry Hershy. LINKS You can find out much more about Terry and his post Sabbath Moment .  

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Show Notes Hi there and Welcome to the Next Chapter with Charlie. Our special guest today is Katie Turner... Let's bring her on to the show. LINKS Please visit Katie’s website .

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Show Notes  Our really special guest today is Becca Eve Young, a former corporate strategist turned soulful storyteller and devoted, quite simply, to the art of becoming. Her debut book, "It's Gonna Get Messy" has received brilliant reviews on Amazon—it’s received like 98% of 5-star ratings. That is truly unique! The heart of her story is rooted in ditching the societal script you’ve learned throughout your life and becoming your most soulful, authentic self. With that let’s bring Becca Eve Young on the show!    

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Show Notes  Blair Abee is an author, poet, consultant and ordinary mystic. He has written 5 award winning books and dozens of articles on meditation and manifestation. Blair describes himself this way, “I am an explorer who has discovered a variety of techniques, tools and ideas that I think you will find useful in your own personal development. With that let’s bring Blair on the show! LINKS Please check out Blair’s most famous book: The Meditation Book, at Amazon . Get a free copy of Blair’s first book on meditation from his website found .

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On today’s podcast I plan to be perhaps be just a bit controversial by challenging one of our society’s prime objectives—personal growth. In truth, this may be a follow up to the show we did with my son on the tension between personal improvement and personal contentment.

My question, I guess, is this: does there ever come a time in life when you are done growing? Do you ever get to “arrive” and be done with this exhausting effort “to be the best you, you can be?”

I can put the blame on my thoughts on author Neil Gaimen who wrote this in his poem After Silence:

And somebody has to say that we
never need to grow forever
. That
we, like the trees, can reach our full growth,
and mature, in wisdom and in time,
that we can be enough of us…
Who’ll whisper it:
We’re done. We grew. Enough.

Neil Gaimen struck on chord that has been ringing in my ears for some time now: that our obsession with “growth” comes from an almost unhealthy dissatisfaction with ourselves. 

Why do I have to be the best Charlie I can be? Why can’t I be, just Charlie?

I heard an interview with B.B. King when he said to up and coming blues guitarists: “Quit trying to be the best one, just try to be a good one.”

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