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The Making Of A Leader ft. Nick Goodin

Uncommon Leadership

Release Date: 10/15/2025

Uncommon Roundtable: How High-Performing Tech Leaders Build Resilience show art Uncommon Roundtable: How High-Performing Tech Leaders Build Resilience

Uncommon Leadership

Why do we treat joy or happiness as a reward?   Something we’re allowed to feel only after the sprint is over, or the code is shipped, or the crisis is averted.   When we cut out joy to focus solely on getting it done, we trigger a dangerous biological shift called predatory aggression—a state where our doer brain takes over, shutting down curiosity, connection, and empathy. The very emotions we need to survive the storm and be truly resilient.    In this episode of the Uncommon Leadership Roundtable, we explore the true ROI of Joy. Our expert panel brings decades of...

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The High Cost of Fitting In: Reclaiming Your Power as a Neurodivergent Leader ft. Rita Ramakrishnan show art The High Cost of Fitting In: Reclaiming Your Power as a Neurodivergent Leader ft. Rita Ramakrishnan

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For many tech leaders—especially the neurodivergent—success often feels like a performance. You mirror the behaviors you see, fit ourselves into neurotypical boxes, and pay for it with our mental and physical health.   But leadership doesn’t have to be a grind. When you stop fighting your own wiring and start leveraging your Pattern Recognition Engine, you don't just work faster—you work with Cognitive Ease.   In this episode of Uncommon Leadership Podcast, Michael Hunter sits down with neurodivergent executive coach and researcher Rita Ramakrishnan to debug the Masking Tax...

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From Debt to Real Wealth: Debugging Your Financial System ft. Julie Murphy show art From Debt to Real Wealth: Debugging Your Financial System ft. Julie Murphy

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You cannot separate your numbers from your nervous system.   When you operate from a "hijacked" state—driven by financial pasts, debt snowballs, or "rich but empty" milestones—you’re driving on the rough shoulder of the road.   You’re wrecking your suspension (your health and relationships) and wondering why the journey feels like a grind.   Success without joy is neither an achievement nor joyful. It’s just a "leaky container" waiting to drain your energy.   In this episode of the Uncommon Leadership Podcast, I, Michael Hunter, am joined by Julie Murphy, a...

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Moving from Values on the Wall to Authenticity in the Room ft. Henry Suryawirawan show art Moving from Values on the Wall to Authenticity in the Room ft. Henry Suryawirawan

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If you see your team stalling, projects dragging, and an invisible friction you can’t quite name—this podcast is for you. When tech leaders feel a gap between expectations and outcomes, their first natural response is often to withdraw or try to fix the situation with more rules and processes. And without even realizing it, that distance creates a cycle of silence. Your team begins to play it safe, hiding the very "human data" you need to actually move forward.   In this episode of the Uncommon Leadership Podcast, I, Michael Hunter, am joined by Henry Suryawirawan—an engineering...

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Why Great Leaders Get Stuck [And What Actually Frees Them] ft. Gary Montalvo show art Why Great Leaders Get Stuck [And What Actually Frees Them] ft. Gary Montalvo

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Tech leaders are struggling because they’re carrying too much— too much pressure to have answers, too much responsibility for outcomes, too little space to be human.   And it’s exhausting.   In the latest episode of the Uncommon Leadership Podcast, I, Michael Hunter from Uncommon Teams, sit down with leadership and mindset coach Gary Montalvo for a deeply honest conversation about what actually blocks leaders from creating healthy teams, resilient cultures, and sustainable results.   From his early days as a 22-year-old art director at Sony Music to building his own...

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Uncommon Roundtable: How High-Performing Tech Teams Actually Build Resilience show art Uncommon Roundtable: How High-Performing Tech Teams Actually Build Resilience

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As leaders, we’re taught to push through.   Work harder. Focus longer. Stay disciplined.   But what if resilience isn’t built by endurance at all? What if it’s shaped in the small, almost invisible moments—how teams reset, reconnect, and rehumanize their work before exhaustion sets in?   In this episode of the Uncommon Leadership Roundtable Podcast, Michael Hunter from Uncommon Teams brings together a group of deeply respected practitioners to explore resilience not as a personal trait—but as a systemic capability.   What unfolds is an honest, experience-driven...

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The Hidden Dynamics That Make or Break Tech Teams ft. Keith Klain show art The Hidden Dynamics That Make or Break Tech Teams ft. Keith Klain

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Most leaders believe their teams go quiet because people fear conflict, don’t know what to say, or lack confidence.   But that’s almost never the real reason.   In this episode of Uncommon Leadership, Keith Klain joins me to reveal a harder, more human truth: Teams go quiet when they stop trusting how honest their leaders will be with them.   Keith shares the shift that transformed every organization he led—from global banks to fast-paced tech teams.   When he stopped treating information as currency and started telling people the real “why” behind decisions,...

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Six Pillars of Resilient Leadership ft. Jim Carlough show art Six Pillars of Resilient Leadership ft. Jim Carlough

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What if the real competitive advantage in your organization isn’t your strategy or your technology— but the way you show up for your people when everything feels uncertain?   In this episode of the Uncommon Leadership Podcast, I’m joined by Jim Carlough—a veteran healthcare executive, strategist, and author.   Jim’s journey spans from captaining sports teams in his youth to helping organizations find their footing again. Through every experience, Jim kept returning to the same anchors: persistence, focus, and a genuine responsibility to his team.   And this became the...

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How Top Leaders Build Teams That Speak Up ft. Fortune Buchholtz show art How Top Leaders Build Teams That Speak Up ft. Fortune Buchholtz

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Are your teams holding back?   Are they experimenting, speaking up, or taking risks when the stakes are high?   If not, you're dealing with a problem that hasn't surfaced yet. And it's not a skill problem. Or a process problem.   It’s most likely a culture problem.    When your people don’t feel safe, they don't take risks. They hide their vulnerabilities. And in an environment like this, even your best talent stays silent — or quietly leaves.   Hi there! Welcome back!   I’m Michael Hunter from Uncommon Teams, and in this episode of the Uncommon...

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The Chiropractic Leadership ft. Rita Malvone show art The Chiropractic Leadership ft. Rita Malvone

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Why aren't your teams bringing you their best ideas?  Why are they silent in meetings? Most likely, they don't feel psychologically safe to speak up. Or they haven't connected with the real you yet.  If this sounds true for your team, your leadership approach is heading into isolation, and you are facing a quiet crisis. The good news is that it's not too late, and together—we can fix it! Hi there! I'm Michael Hunter from Uncommon Teams, and welcome to another exciting episode of the Uncommon Leadership Podcast. Joining me today is Rita Malvone, a renowned business...

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What if the things you’ve been hiding are the very things that make you an extraordinary leader?
 
In this episode of the Uncommon Leadership podcast, Michael Hunter sits down with Nick Goodin, a former chief product officer, to unpack a truth most leaders never discover: your personal story is your greatest asset.
 
Nick shares his own incredible journey—from a traumatic childhood to the sudden, unexpected loss of his job—revealing how he learned to deconstruct life's challenges and rebuild with purpose.
 
Through his unique philosophy of first principles thinking, Nick provides a roadmap for :
  • cultivating self-awareness,
  • empathy,
  • and trust as your core leadership pillars.

 

This is a profound exploration of how you can align your deepest beliefs with your professional impact, creating cultures where innovation isn't just a goal, but a natural outcome of the process you follow.
 
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TL; DW? Here's a rapid summary:
 
The Problem: Some leaders often feel they have to hide their personal struggles and conform to an idea of strength, leading to burnout and mediocrity.
 
The Solution: This episode offers an authentic, actionable playbook for leaders to navigate uncertainty and find their power by embracing their full, human story. Even if it's not as heroic as you'd like it to be.
 
A Personal Journey: Nick Goodin shares his history of growing up with a hidden identity, which taught him the vital skill of deconstructing narratives—a practice he later applied to his professional life.
 
The Core Idea: True leadership is not about managing teams but understanding (and acknowledging) the human side. By prioritizing self-awareness and leading with empathy, you build trust that leads to innovation.
 
Key Takeaway: Your personal story, your curiosity, and your values are not just parts of your identity—they are your greatest leadership assets. It's time to stop hiding them and start leveraging them.
 
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About the Speakers:
 
Board Member @Five Points Washington | Ex-CPO @ Ice Barrel | Author | Executive Coach | Championing Human-Centered Design & Narrative Intelligence
 
With a career spanning from product innovation to brand strategy, Nick Goodin is known for building spaces where both products and people can thrive. As the former Chief Product Officer at Ice Barrel, Nick has led cross-functional teams to scale new products, promoting empathy and psychological safety as guiding principles. He believes that every great innovation starts with a determination to transform uncertainty into possibility.
 
Now on a mission to share the insights that redefine how we create, lead, and live, Nick challenges leaders to see the world differently. He helps them navigate uncertainty and dig deeper through the power of perspective, storytelling, and intentional choices.
 
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Founder @Uncommon Change | Interlocutor / Curious Host @UncommonLeadership Interview Series | Author | Change & Innovation Partner
 
Michael Hunter partners with top tech leadership teams across six continents to create extraordinary cultures. With 35 years of experience at companies like Microsoft, Salesforce, and Tableau, he helps leaders sustain meaningful change. Michael believes that only by integrating mind, heart, body, spirit, and intuition can leaders truly navigate change safely and build a lasting legacy of impact + human-centered leadership.
 
The best way to connect with Michael Hunter is on LinkedIn:
 
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