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E10: Turning ChatGPT into Your Ultimate Marketing Assistant

AI for Business Podcast

Release Date: 08/29/2025

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Timeline Summary

[0:00] - Introduction

[1:06] - Reflecting on 20 years in marketing and the evolution of direct response

[6:12] - How being an introvert pushed me into mastering copywriting

[10:41] - A tough lesson from Gary Halbert that changed how I approach research

[12:22] - Why empathy is the true superpower of successful marketers

[16:19] - The modern shortcut to old-school research: mining reviews, Reddit, and more

[20:21] - Favorite tools for scraping and organizing customer insights

[24:09] - How to prompt ChatGPT like a seasoned researcher

[29:13] - The ChatGPT vs Claude debate: when to use each for best results

[36:01] - Creating a style guide that mirrors your audience’s language and tone

[43:10] - Writing a high-converting sales letter with the help of AI

[47:14] - Generating product ideas based on real audience feedback

[54:17] - Turning webinars and sales calls into powerful written content

[55:42] - Training virtual assistants to follow this system—even without copy experience

 


 

 

Five Key Takeaways

 

 

  1. Empathy drives conversions – The best marketers don’t just know their product; they deeply understand their audience’s pain, desires, and language.

  2. AI should be your assistant, not your crutch – ChatGPT and Claude can streamline research and content creation, but the quality depends on the inputs you provide.

  3. Real voices come from real data – Use Amazon reviews, Reddit threads, and YouTube comments to understand exactly how your audience speaks and what they care about.

  4. Create style guides based on audience tone – A persona-driven style guide helps keep your messaging consistent, relatable, and effective across all content.

  5. Prompts are the new skillset – Learning to engineer great prompts is what separates average AI users from high-performing marketers.

 

 

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