167. What Happens When the Market and Your Airline Career Both Stall?
21.FIVE - Professional Pilots Podcast
Release Date: 05/06/2025
21.FIVE - Professional Pilots Podcast
Summer scheduling chaos is in full swing as Dylan and Max talk vacation bidding wizardry, Teterboro’s RNAV to Runway 1, NDB war stories, New York hotel-room misery, and a suspiciously affectionate airline lobby ritual. In the Mailbag, they tackle foreign pilots at U.S. carriers, terrifying hotel van rides, AI app-building tools, and a listener plea to stop stepping on each other’s punchlines. For Flight Advice, they answer a 300-hour CFI wondering how to build an interesting aviation career while still protecting family life, QOL, and future seniority. Show Notes 0:00 Intro & Pagers...
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Dylan and Max talk Alaska dreams, Southwest’s new nonstop to Anchorage, lake lodge podcast fantasies, and Max’s brave decision to bypass the discounted Marriott burger for Yemeni cuisine. In the Mailbag, listener Elijah checks in with a unique path back into aviation after the Air Force and a decade away from flying. For Flight Advice, the guys break down why using the GI Bill for PC-12 initial training, single-engine ATP currency, and an Alaska 135 strategy might actually be a no-brainer. Also: meta glasses, janky gravel strips, and potential tax treatment for baklava. - Try out the beta...
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Timothy P. Pope joins Dylan and Max to talk through the financial side of Spirit’s shutdown and what professional pilots can learn from it. For airline and bizav pilots, the big takeaway is simple but not always fun: stabilize first, optimize later. The crew digs into emergency funds, burn rate, 401(k) rollovers, IRA traps, benefits, life insurance, and why raiding retirement money is usually the nuclear option you try very hard to avoid. Listen, subscribe, and maybe give your emergency fund a little love. Tim Pope, CFP® — Tim is both a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ and a pilot. His...
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Dylan and Max kick things off with DoubleTree cookie restraint, San Diego seafood, 40-plus Vegas strategy, DJ juice, and the emerging menace of the commuter life vest. In the Mailbag, listeners bring dumpster-diving charter pilot stories, bankruptcy bassoon suggestions, skydiving-adjacent book recommendations, and a heavy airline-industry “what if” about another major demand shock. Dylan also recaps his first Atlantic crossing in years, complete with CPDLC confusion, Gander relief, and some unpaid product shoutouts. Flight Advice tackles whether a 36-year-old Caravan pilot with a young...
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James Onieal from Raven Career Development joins Dylan and Max to unpack Spirit Airlines’ wind down and what it means for Spirit pilots, regional pilots, CFIs, and anyone trying to move up the aviation ladder. The conversation gets into why experience alone will not carry you through an interview, especially when 2,000-ish highly qualified pilots suddenly enter the market. James breaks down logbooks, PRD files, recommendation strategy, corporate aviation, oil-price uncertainty, and why “preferential interview” does not mean “automatic job.” Raven Careers — Helping your career take...
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Max recaps a wild GA camping trip involving gale-force winds and a midnight arboreal emergency, while Dylan discusses the "superpower" of vibe-coding your own aviation tools with AI . The Mailbag tackles the dilemma of choosing between a quick class date with a restrictive five-year contract or waiting for a better "wholly owned" offer . Finally, Flight Advice addresses a contract pilot who is being ghosted on $10,000 worth of invoices and expenses . Show Notes 0:00 Intro 2:24 Max’s Musings: Flights & Camping 23:13 Pilot Numbers, FAA, & AI Coding 30:10 Reviews 31:39 Mailbag 42:06...
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Dylan and Max sit down with Kyle Freiberger and Mike Sferrazza from First Class Leaders to bridge the gap between technical proficiency and effective aviation leadership . This episode explores why traditional CRM often fails to address the human element and how pilots at any rank can cultivate influence through self-awareness and emotional intelligence . The guys dive into the "Take the Lead" framework, the DISC behavioral tool, and the critical shift from defending your intentions to owning your impact on the crew . Learn more about Show Notes 0:00 Intro 2:11 Starting First Class Leaders...
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This week Dylan and Max kick things off with Atlantic Bucks, the new IRS reporting threshold, and a spirited rant about airport parking, employee lots, and the endless misery of hotel vans. In the mailbag, they dig into helicopter careers, the real risk-versus-reward tradeoffs, and what that path looks like compared with airplanes. Flight Advice gets into career strategy for a maintenance pro trying to break into flying and a young regional FO deciding between staying put, jumping to 135, or chasing a bigger airplane. It’s part career counseling, part curbside therapy, and very much a...
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Juan Browne of the blancolirio YouTube channel joins Dylan and Max to talk about how he breaks down aviation accidents and incidents in near real time. For professional pilots, it’s a sharp discussion on separating facts from opinion, finding teachable moments, and managing the gap before the NTSB final report arrives. They get into ADS-B, ATC audio, comment-section corrections, GA repeat offenders like VFR into IMC and loss of control, plus a few backcountry Husky war stories. Check out the Juan Browne's on YouTube Show Notes 0:00 Intro 3:00 How It Started 9:10 The Process of Making a...
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Why is Max recording at night, and why does every aviation headline lately feel like another runway-incursion autopsy? This episode covers TSA chaos at Sky Harbor, a rough New York accident discussion, eVTOL optimism, and Max’s descent into experimental-airplane condition inspection misery. In the Mailbag, the guys debate NBAA landing-distance math, hear a loud call to bring back listener stories, and defend Max’s musings like true professionals. In Flight Advice, they tackle a brutal career question: keep three years of United seniority and commute, or risk starting over at Delta for a...
info_outlineTim Pope returns to the 21.Five cockpit with a fresh instrument rating and a new venture—360 Aviation Advisors. He breaks down Q1’s market turbulence, political biases in financial behavior, and how pilots can prep for leaner flying days. Plus, Dylan and Max dive into “Captain Lifestyle Syndrome” and how to navigate financial FOMO with some flight advice.
Visit Tim's website for more information or to schedule a consult.
Show Notes
0:00 Intro
6:20 Updates and Q1
15:03 Planning For The Next 6-12 Months
20:53 Airline Slowdowns
33:31 Flight Advice: Realistic Pilot Life
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