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191. Should You Sign a $75K Contract Just to Chase PIC Time?

21.FIVE - Professional Pilots Podcast

Release Date: 11/18/2025

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Show Notes

0:00 Intro

4:05 Miserable Week

18:04 Cub & Chicago

33:39 Reviews & Comments

38:40 Mailbag

1:14:48 Flight Advice

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