2-02: SexTech n’ Chill & Undoing Internalized Religious Shame with Reuben and Sherri Johnson, AKA FlyDuo
Release Date: 08/17/2023
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It’s the Season 2 finale and we have the one and only Carrie Goldberg as our guest! Carrie is the founding attorney of C.A. Goldberg, PLLC, a victims rights’ firm in Brooklyn, where Norma is Director of Client Relations. Known for being the lawyer taking on big tech, Carrie created her firm to advocate for victims of tech-facilitated abuse and has been one of the leaders in changing laws and attitudes surrounding image-based sexual abuse. Norma and Carrie discuss meeting in 2015, when Carrie became Norma’s lawyer, what was going on in Carrie’s life at the time, only about a year into...
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This week’s guest, Kaytlin Bailey, is a sex worker rights advocate, comedian, writer, and founder of Old Pros and Host of The Oldest Profession Podcast. She tells us about her start getting into sex work as a form of rebellion, how her sex work evolved as she pursued her comedy career, and the undeniable freedom that comes with “embracing that archetypal whore.” Norma and Kaytlin discuss how censorship of sex-positive content is actually counterintuitive to preventing sexual abuse, as well as the nuances of “free speech” and what that means, and for whom. Kaytlin explains how she got...
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This week we have directors of Another Body, a documentary following a college student’s investigation after discovering deepfake content of herself online – and we get an inside look into the making of it. First, in the intro, Norma talks about the news that CA has passed Tyler’s Law (AB1109), which punishes online retailers for selling sodium nitrite to minors. She also talks about C.A. Goldberg’s new blog post on the legal rights of sex workers. Then, we get to our guests, Sophie Compton and Reuben Hamlyn. Sophie and Reuben tell us about their paths to making a documentary about...
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This week we have on Mx. Sizzle (they/them), sex and kink educator and professor of sexual health decision-making and intro to health disparities, with tons of fascinating knowledge to share. First, in the intro, Norma talks about NY’s “deepfake” law that was just signed by Governor Hochul. Then, we get to our guest. Mx. Sizzle talks about their start in purity culture and how they dove into sex education as a teen. They get into their period of domming for 8 years, and Norma and Mx. Sizzle discuss stigma around BDSM and how controlled power dynamics can be healing for survivors. They...
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Rachele Royale is a powerhouse – she’s a musician and podcaster who’s not afraid to call sh*t how it is. Before their conversation, Norma discusses Hispanic Heritage Month in the intro, Cuba and freedom of expression, and recent news of rising rates of femicide in Cuba in the intro. She also shares politician and survivor Katie Hill’s recent piece about Susanna Gibson, political candidate who recently publicly became a victim of image-based sexual abuse. Then, we get to this week’s guest. This episode is recorded in 2 parts – in part 1, a clip from Rachele’s podcast Haus of...
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This week’s guest is Dr. Spring Cooper, professor of sexual health and yoga teacher. Before that, in the intro, Norma covers articles about “Zoom culture” and our perception of self, and a recent arrest of clients of sex workers in NYC – as well as the current state of the prosecution of prostitution in NYC (articles linked below). Then, the interview: Spring tells us about why she started studying human sexuality, and her research on sexual agency and the first ever measure that she created for it. She gets into some of her findings from her research on adolescent sexual agency, and...
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This week’s guest is intimacy coordinator and director Amy Northup. First, in the intro, Norma talks a little about the current state of AI in Hollywood and proposed legislation (article linked below). Then, Amy explains what she does and what a day in her life might look like, and dispels the myth that intimacy coordinators “sanitize” sex scenes (they actually make them sexier). She shares both hilarious and illuminating stories from sets, where actors realized they hadn’t been asked about their own boundaries before then, or times when an actor was empowered to change their mind....
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Cleopatra Tatabele is truly a beacon of wisdom. They’re a Two-Spirit Black and Taino educator, content creator, and make-up artist. Norma and Cleopatra talk a little about nonmonogamy before Cleopatra breaks down what it means to her to be Two-Spirit. They discuss Latino culture and unpacking indigeneity, race and colorism within the self and others. (Spoiler: Latino is not a race.) Then, Norma and Cleopatra get into the pervasiveness of victim-blaming, and Cleopatra explains “spiritual victim blaming” within non-religious spiritual spaces and what we can learn about healing and...
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This week’s guest, Silvia Semezin, is an Italian researcher, activist, and writer living in Spain – yes, she’s incredibly smart. First, in the intro, Norma discusses Wired article “Sex Workers Took Refuge In Crypto. Now It’s Failing Them” and financial discrimination, and then shares some of her personal journey with PTSD and antidepressants and where she’s at now. Then, we get to the interview. Silvia breaks down what digital sociology is and how she tries to keep up with the ever-changing tech landscape. Then she tells about her personal experience with image-based sexual abuse...
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Jacqueline Frances, FKA as Jacq the Stripper, is a legend – she’s a visionary, creative, a philosopher; an artist, comic, and former stripper (and she worked with JLO consulting on the movie Hustlers). She gets into her decade of being a gay stripper across the world and finding healing through sex work, unlearning whorephobia and the whorearchy in public and learning from the sex work activism scene, and her experiences surrounding strip club culture and safety across the world. Norma and Jacq get into Norma’s consideration into starting an OnlyFans (yes, this interview was recorded...
info_outlineThis week’s guests are married couple and sextech business partners Reuben and Sherri Johnson. Before the interview in the intro, Norma recounts what’s been going on in the last year in her life – global coalitions, going to the White House, and an update on what her first week has been like on OnlyFans. Then, Sherri and Reuben tell us about how they went from a life of being dedicated Jehovah’s Witnesses, to leaving the church and starting their own sexploration and becoming brand specialists obsessed with destigmatizing pleasure – and how they’ve navigated all of that as a married couple. They get into the idea of the gentrification of porn, and Norma, Reuben, and Sherri reflect on all of their own experiences unlearning religious shame around sexuality, and how purity culture permeates mainstream society. They talk about the things society tells us about ourselves – whether you’re a woman, Black, LGBTQ+, or so on – and how we can start to unlearn that, and how porn consumption can affect us positively or negatively. Then, Sherri and Reuben tell us about The Porn Conversation, a sex-ed project started by porn cinema director Erika Lust, for whom they’re ambassadors, and they share their perspectives on talking to kids about sex.
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Resources Mentioned:
White House Task Force to Address Online Harassment and Abuse https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/03/03/executive-summary-initial-blueprint-for-the-white-house-task-force-to-address-online-harassment-and-abuse/
The Porn Conversation https://thepconversation.org/