The Future of TypeScript in Bazel: An In-Depth Conversation on SWC
Release Date: 09/10/2024
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info_outlineIn this episode of Aspect Insights, Alex Eagle sits down with Jason Bedard to explore the intersection of TypeScript and SWC within the Bazel ecosystem. Jason, the primary maintainer of rules JS, shares his insights on managing large-scale migrations and the evolving role of TypeScript in modern development workflows. Whether you're a developer looking to optimize your TypeScript builds or you're curious about the latest advancements in SWC, this episode offers valuable strategies and knowledge to enhance your projects. Join us as we navigate the intricacies of TypeScript and SWC with one of the field's leading experts.
Jason Bedard is a software engineer specializing in JavaScript and TypeScript. As the primary maintainer of rules JS at Aspect, Jason has led numerous migrations and played a pivotal role in integrating TypeScript with Bazel. With years of experience in modern development practices and a deep understanding of the Bazel ecosystem, Jason continues to drive innovation in build systems and developer productivity.
Alex Eagle is a co-founder at Aspect and a long-time contributor to the Bazel project. With a passion for building efficient developer tools and a commitment to the open-source community, Alex has been instrumental in advancing the Bazel ecosystem. His expertise in monorepo management and build optimization makes him a key voice in the ongoing evolution of Bazel.
Timestamps:
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00:00 Introduction and overview of the episode.
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03:45 Discussion on the latest developments in TypeScript and SWC.
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07:20 Challenges in migrating TypeScript projects to SWC.
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11:35 Best practices for managing large-scale TypeScript migrations.
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16:00 Insights into rules JS and its role in the Bazel ecosystem.
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20:15 Enhancing build efficiency with SWC in Bazel.
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24:30 Community contributions and the future of TypeScript in Bazel.
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30:50 Closing thoughts and takeaways from the episode.