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So You Want to Run an Urban Outdoor Experiential Nonprofit?

Advancing the Outdoor Professional

Release Date: 03/12/2025

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Advancing the Outdoor Professional

Description In this episode of Advancing the Outdoor Professional, our host Candace Brendler speaks with Josie McKee, Director of Operations and Communications at Responder Alliance. The two discuss managing burnout and the effects of traumatic stress injuries. From climbing instructor and wilderness educator to search & rescue team member and resilience trainer, Josie shares her career journey and how her lived experience with stress injury shaped her work in resilience and stress management training. Tune in to learn about psychological first aid and how the stress continuum can help...

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Check out Candace Brendler's conversation with Joe Stone, co-owner of Dovetail Trails Consulting, about the importance of creating adaptive and accessible recreation opportunities for people with disabilities. They discuss the role of Dovetail in advocating for disability rights, the challenges faced in making trails accessible, and the significance of providing detailed trail information. Joe shares his personal journey into this field, emphasizing the need for inclusivity and the involvement of people with disabilities in the process. The conversation concludes with an invitation to the...

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Join Candace Brendler as she chats with Heather West, Executive Director of Loop NOLA. Heather shares insights into the operations of her nonprofit, which focuses on outdoor adventure education for youth in New Orleans. She discusses her career journey, the challenges of running an urban outdoor nonprofit, and the importance of inclusivity in outdoor education. Heather emphasizes the need for understanding the local community and creating programs that cater to diverse populations, while also addressing the unique environmental challenges of the region.

 

Heather will be joining AORE for the 2025 Inclusivity in the Outdoors month. You can learn more here.

 

Meet Heather

Heather West is the Executive Director at LOOP NOLA and has worked with youth-based nonprofits in the outdoor education field since 2009. She worked for Outward Bound for over five years, leading 3-4 week canoeing and backpacking expeditions for at-risk youth. After moving back to New Orleans, Heather began working for LOOP NOLA in 2016 as the Program Director and transitioned to the Executive Director role in 2022. She spends her spare time sailing, playing outside with her husband and dog, and enjoying New Orleans culture.

 

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