Finding Courage in the Messy Middle: Surrendering Control and Embracing Unexpected Turns with Bryson Kessler | Episode 5
Eighth & Grace with Brandy Dawson
Release Date: 03/18/2025
Eighth & Grace with Brandy Dawson
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info_outlineHave you ever felt like you're wearing a mask, desperately trying to keep up appearances while shame and fear threaten to overwhelm you? In this heartfelt conversation, I had the pleasure of sitting down with Bryson Kessler, owner of Clover and Bee and host of the Honey for Your Heart podcast, to explore the unexpected twists and turns that led her to where she is today.
Bryson, is one of those people when you talk with her for the first time, she is instantly your friend. A true girl's girl at heart! When we met, I instantly knew she was one of the special ones. Our interview felt life having coffee with a long time friend I hadn't seen in a while and needed to catch up with.
Her journey is a testament to the power of perseverance and God's unwavering grace. From planting a church in Tennessee to facing divorce and loss, she's experienced the highs and lows of life's rollercoaster. But it's in the messy middle - that space between the beginning and the triumphant end - where true growth and transformation occur.
Finding Beauty in the Unexpected
- • The importance of being an active listener in relationships
- • How to navigate the challenges of blending families
- • Finding courage to move forward, even when afraid
- • Recognizing God's presence in both the mundane and difficult moments
- • Embracing the "holy hush" and seeing holiness in hard times
Bryson's experiences offer hope and encouragement for anyone feeling stuck in their own messy middle. Her words remind us that God's grace can rewrite any story, bringing beauty from ashes and purpose from pain.
Whether you're facing unexpected challenges, feeling shame, or simply needing a reminder of God's faithfulness, this conversation will inspire you to keep pressing forward. Because as Bryson beautifully puts it, "He's not done yet."
"There's nothing. We are never, ever going to be too powerful to mess up our plan that God has for our life. And I think that's one of the most important things that we can learn, is that He loves us right where we are, because of who He is. His grace can rewrite any story at any time and allow us to rise from the ashes. And there's always beauty with Him. If it's not good, He's not done. Right?
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