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A Conversation with Matt Cullen, former executive of Dan Gilbert's Family of Companies

Beyond Four Walls: Conversations on Affordable Housing

Release Date: 02/10/2025

LIIF’s Dan Nissenbaum discusses how CDFIs drive affordable housing and economic opportunity show art LIIF’s Dan Nissenbaum discusses how CDFIs drive affordable housing and economic opportunity

Beyond Four Walls: Conversations on Affordable Housing

In this week’s episode, we welcome Dan Nissenbaum, CEO of the Low Income Investment Fund (LIIF), a renowned, national Community Development Financial Institution (CDFI) that has invested over $3.5 billion in transformative projects creating opportunities for low-income individuals and communities. Nissenbaum joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss how CDFIs differ from traditional banks and lenders and explores how LIIF leverages tax credits, innovative financing tools, and strategic partnerships to expand access to affordable housing, drive economic empowerment, and revitalize...

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Beyond Four Walls: Conversations on Affordable Housing

In this week’s episode, we welcome Patrick Dodd, President and CEO of Cotality, formerly known as CoreLogic. Cotality uses real-time property data and insights to help agents, lenders, insurers, and innovators uncover risks, seize opportunities, and drive meaningful impact across the property ecosystem. Dodd joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss how Cotality is redefining its role in the housing ecosystem and addressing today's housing trends—from the impact of rising interest rates and insurance costs to how AI is reshaping the property and housing industry, and what it all...

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Beyond Four Walls: Conversations on Affordable Housing

In this week’s episode, we welcome Michael Novogradac, Managing Partner of Novogradac, a national professional services firm with deep expertise in tax policy, affordable housing, community development, historic preservation, and opportunity zones. He is a recognized voice in national policy discussions, having testified before Congress and contributed insights to agencies like the U.S. Treasury and the IRS. His commentary is regularly featured in major outlets like The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Politico, CNBC, and NPR. Novogradac joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin...

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Beyond Four Walls: Conversations on Affordable Housing

In this week’s episode, NHC President and CEO David Dworkin talks with Amy Hovey, Executive Director & CEO of the Michigan State Housing Development Authority, and Robin Wiessmann, Executive Director and CEO of the Pennsylvania Housing Finance Agency, to discuss how housing finance agencies are addressing the affordable housing shortage in their states.  Amy Hovey is the first woman to lead the Michigan State Housing Development Authority. With more than 20 years of experience across government, philanthropy, and the private sector, Amy has built a career rooted in community...

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NAR's Shannon McGahn talks navigating Washington for housing solutions show art NAR's Shannon McGahn talks navigating Washington for housing solutions

Beyond Four Walls: Conversations on Affordable Housing

In this week’s episode, we welcome Shannon McGahn, Executive Vice President and Chief Advocacy Officer, of the National Association of REALTORS®, which represents over 1.5 million members across every zip code in the U.S. involved in residential and commercial real estate. With nearly 25 years in government and public affairs, she has led major legislative efforts, from guiding the House Financial Services Committee during the financial crisis to helping pass the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act as counselor to the U.S. Treasury Secretary. McGahn joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to...

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Former Senator Mel Martinez talks housing policy, bipartisanship, and the path forward show art Former Senator Mel Martinez talks housing policy, bipartisanship, and the path forward

Beyond Four Walls: Conversations on Affordable Housing

In this week's episode, we welcome Mel Martinez, former U.S. Senator and former Secretary for the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development and an upcoming recipient of NHC's Carl A.S. Coan, Sr., Lifetime Achievement Award for Public Service at our annual  on Wednesday, June 11.   As the first Cuban American elected to the U.S. Senate, Senator Martinez brought a powerful voice to issues like economic development, housing policy, and international relations. He also served as the 12th U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, where he focused on expanding...

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Beyond Four Walls: Conversations on Affordable Housing

In this week's episode, we welcome Renee Lewis Glover, Founder and Managing Member of The Catalyst Group, LLC, and an upcoming recipient of NHC's Housing Visionary Award at our annual  on June 11. A purpose-driven thought leader and accomplished business executive with deep expertise in housing affordability, Glover gained international recognition during her 19-year tenure as CEO of the Atlanta Housing Authority, where she transformed the public housing model into a master-planned, mixed-income community model. Glover joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss building...

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NAHB's Jim Tobin discusses tariffs, regulations, and immigration's impact on housing show art NAHB's Jim Tobin discusses tariffs, regulations, and immigration's impact on housing

Beyond Four Walls: Conversations on Affordable Housing

In this week's episode, we welcome Jim Tobin, President and CEO of the National Association of Home Builders, which represents the largest network of craftsmen, innovators, and problem solvers, with over 700 state and local associations and more than 140,000 members. With more than 20 years of association leadership and housing policy background, Jim has played a key role in shaping legislation and addressing the industry's evolving challenges. Tobin joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to discuss how tariffs and federal, state, and local regulatory burdens are impacting housing costs and...

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Unlocking Latino homeownership with UnidosUS' Laura Arce show art Unlocking Latino homeownership with UnidosUS' Laura Arce

Beyond Four Walls: Conversations on Affordable Housing

In this week's episode, we welcome Laura Arce, Senior Vice President for Economic Initiatives at UnidosUS, a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization that serves as the nation’s largest Hispanic civil rights and advocacy organization. She is the architect of the Home Ownership Means Equity (HOME) Initiative, a multi-year movement using policy, research, communications, and community-based strategies to influence systemic change toward the goal of four million new Latino homeowners by the end of this decade. Arce joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to explore how the organization is evolving...

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NFHA's Lisa Rice on Civil Rights and Housing Justice show art NFHA's Lisa Rice on Civil Rights and Housing Justice

Beyond Four Walls: Conversations on Affordable Housing

In this week's episode, we welcome Lisa Rice, President and CEO of the National Fair Housing Alliance, the nation’s only national civil rights agency solely dedicated to eliminating all forms of housing discrimination. She has been instrumental in shaping fair housing policy, helping create the CFPB’s Office of Fair Lending and contributing to the Dodd-Frank Act. She has also led groundbreaking investigations that have brought justice to countless individuals impacted by discriminatory lending and housing practices.    Rice joins NHC President and CEO David Dworkin to reflect on...

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In this week's episode, we welcome Matt Cullen, Chairman of JACK Entertainment and a former executive who led gaming, real estate, and other initiatives for Dan Gilbert’s Family of Companies. Matt’s career spans decades of impactful leadership, from overseeing GM’s 450-million-square-foot global real estate portfolio to spearheading Detroit’s riverfront transformation and revitalizing urban landscapes in both Detroit and Cleveland. 

 

From revitalizing neighborhoods to tackling economic and environmental challenges, Cullen joins NHC's President and CEO to discuss Detroit’s economic recovery and offers valuable lessons for other cities looking to build a stronger future.