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Diversity without Dogma: Accuracy about history - Denial is poison (chapter 5)

A Science of Change

Release Date: 02/10/2024

Understanding Lewin with Dr. Bernard Burnes show art Understanding Lewin with Dr. Bernard Burnes

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One of my favorite podcasts to date! I consider Dr. Burnes of the University of Stirling in Scotland as the preeminent Lewinian scholar alive today, and a wonderful source for understanding Lewin's social science and practical theories of change. If you have information for his upcoming book on Lewin he would love to hear from you! His e-mail is . Enjoy!

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OD Master Series: History of T-groups with Robert P. Crosby show art OD Master Series: History of T-groups with Robert P. Crosby

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Another conversation with my father, Robert P. Crosby, drawing on his T-group experience which dates to 1953 with his first group leader Walter Holcomb, and followed soon after with trainers such as Lippitt, Bradford, and Benne. We explore the history of T-groups together, using the 1964 T-group Theory and Laboratory Method as a guide to the early methods, structure, and leadership styles eminating from Lewin's inner circle.  

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"Payne-ful" business: Moving forward by embracing the past

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A conversation with Margaret Seidler, author of “Payne-ful” Business: Charleston’s Journey to Truth. Ms. Seidler only recently became aware of her own family's deep involvlement in the African slave trade. She has chosen to bring her family story into the light of day, focusing her energy towards helping us move towards a more complete understanding of the past so that we can overcome that which divides us today. 

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Voice of a Leader: A plant manager meets a blue collar OD guy show art Voice of a Leader: A plant manager meets a blue collar OD guy

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Listen in to a heartfelt conversation with David Ledesma, the leader who used Cotton Mears at four different locations over a 20 year span. Learn about how and why he did so. This is also part of the View from a target series, which is material for my next book, about the power of engaging the hourly workforce in improving productivity and morale. 

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OD Master Series: Action Research guru Dick Schmuck show art OD Master Series: Action Research guru Dick Schmuck

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Join us as 88 year old OD sage Dick Schmuck recalls his first hand experiences with Lewin's inner circle, including Ronald Lippitt, Leland Bradford, and Ken Benne, as well as with my dad and with behavioral scientist John Wallen. We also discusses Schmuck's books and his unique approach to action research.  

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View from a Target - A union VP meets applied behavioral science show art View from a Target - A union VP meets applied behavioral science

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Listen in as Pat Roberson, former union VP and steward at the Alcoa Warrick Texarkana rolling mill, tells the story of his life as an hourly worker before and after Gil Crosby and his team conducted Lewinian OD in the East Texas plant. 

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View from a Target - Blue collar OD guy - An electrician meets applied behavioral science show art View from a Target - Blue collar OD guy - An electrician meets applied behavioral science

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Listen in as Mark Horswood, former union stward and electrician at the Alcoa Warrick auluminum smelter tells the story of his life as an hourly worker before and after Gil Crosby and his team conducted Lewinian OD in the Indiana plant. 

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Facilitating Democracy: Exploring citizen engagement methods with Dr. Rosa Zubizarreta show art Facilitating Democracy: Exploring citizen engagement methods with Dr. Rosa Zubizarreta

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Join us as we describe and convey many models of citizen engagement, and related topics. 

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OD Master Series: An exploration of spirituality and OD with John Scherer show art OD Master Series: An exploration of spirituality and OD with John Scherer

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OD elder and Lutheran pastor John Scherer talks about the spiritual nature of his work, and shares his considerable knowledge of religion with host Gilmore Crosby. 

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OD Master Series: Exploring my father's connections to Lewin's inner circle show art OD Master Series: Exploring my father's connections to Lewin's inner circle

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A conversation with my father, Robert P. Crosby, about the roots of his OD and the connections to Lewin, such as Lippitt, Bradford, and Benne. The conversation took unexpected twists and turns, and includes wisdom about change, love, and other matters. 

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In honor of Black History Month I skipped other chapters in my Diveristy without Dogma book and went directly to the chapter on history, which mostly is focused on the history of racism in the US. Please note that this chapter is only one elelment in a much larger social science framework for how to have dialgue about, learn about, and take action on any kind of prejudice. I highly recommend listening to my earlier podcast on the framework in Diversity without Dogma, to help put this talk into context.