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The Convergence of AI and Apprenticeship

Apprenticeship 2.0

Release Date: 09/02/2025

Building Stronger Foundations for Skilled Trades Careers in Arizona show art Building Stronger Foundations for Skilled Trades Careers in Arizona

Apprenticeship 2.0

In this episode, Joe chats with Sidney Hawkins, Director of Apprenticeship at the Arizona Builders Alliance (ABA), and Drake Williams, Apprentice for Delta Diversified Enterprises. Together, they discuss apprenticeship in Arizona and the ABA’s workforce mission; the role of apprenticeship in addressing labor shortages; building high-quality apprenticeship programs and expanding career pathways; changing perceptions of the skilled trades and engaging the next generation; Drake’s journey through work-based learning and career development; the future of...

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Inside North Carolina’s Apprenticeship Ecosystem show art Inside North Carolina’s Apprenticeship Ecosystem

Apprenticeship 2.0

In this episode, Joe chats with Analisa Archer, Senior Director of Policy at EducationNC; Caroline Sullivan, Executive Director of the North Carolina Business Committee for Education; and Dr. Chris Harrington, Director of ApprenticeshipNC, North Carolina’s State Apprenticeship Agency. Together, they discuss North Carolina’s rise as an apprenticeship leader, the growth of apprenticeship programs across the state, youth apprenticeship and high school pathways, expanding apprenticeship into new industries and sectors in the state, how other states could...

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A Teacher Apprenticeship Pathway and the Partnerships Behind It show art A Teacher Apprenticeship Pathway and the Partnerships Behind It

Apprenticeship 2.0

In this episode, Joe and guest co-host Dr. Anastasia Wickham, Provost and Chief Academic Officer at Reach University, chat with Kristi Kirschner, Board President of edwell; Tamika Bartley, Success Coach Coordinator, Registered Apprenticeship Program, Sheldon Independent School District in Texas; and Alexandra Perez, Student at Reach University and AVID Tutor Manager transitioning into the role of Teacher Resident at Null Middle School, 6th Grade Reading and Writing, in Sheldon ISD. Together, they discuss what motivated Sheldon ISD to invest in...

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Advancing Apprenticeship in the Rural U.S.: Leading Lessons From Montana show art Advancing Apprenticeship in the Rural U.S.: Leading Lessons From Montana

Apprenticeship 2.0

In this episode, Joe chats with Glen Disque, Director of the Montana Department of Labor & Industry Registered Apprenticeship Program; Madeline Boehm, Registered Apprenticeship Program Manager at Health Career Advancement Program (H-CAP); and Zach Boren, Senior Vice President at Apprenticeships for America. Together, they discuss the success and growth of Registered Apprenticeship in Montana, including the immense rise of healthcare apprenticeships; plans to continue the growth of apprenticeship in the state; why rural areas are so ripe for...

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What’s Next for Apprenticeship in the U.S. show art What’s Next for Apprenticeship in the U.S.

Apprenticeship 2.0

In this episode, Joe chats with John Colborn, Executive Director of Apprenticeships for America. Together, they discuss John’s journey in the apprenticeship space, pay-for-performance strategies such as the Trump administration funding for the Pay-for-Performance Incentive Payments Program, AFA’s grading of the administration on its efforts to grow apprenticeship, the impact of apprenticeship in a few successful states and how apprenticeship varies across states, the power of the intermediary in expanding...

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Higher Education’s Push Toward a New Value Proposition show art Higher Education’s Push Toward a New Value Proposition

Apprenticeship 2.0

In this episode, Joe and guest co-host Doug Lederman, Principal of Lederman Advisory Services and Co-founder and former Editor of Inside Higher Ed, chat with Colleen Flaherty, Senior Editor of Special Content at Inside Higher Ed, and Sara Weissman, Senior Reporter at Inside Higher Ed. Together, they discuss the most important developments in higher ed today, how higher ed leaders are aiming to change the narrative surrounding higher ed’s value, why higher ed is leaning into apprenticeships and other...

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Bonus Episode: A Supercut in Honor of National Apprenticeship Week show art Bonus Episode: A Supercut in Honor of National Apprenticeship Week

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In honor of National Apprenticeship Week, Joe tees up a handful of memorable clips from past episodes of Apprenticeship 2.0. Hear insights from Kathleen deLaski, Founder and Board Chair of the Education Design Lab; Dr. Mallory Dwinal-Palisch, Co-Founder of Reach University and Oxford Teachers Academy, and current President of Craft Education at Western Governors University; Alison Griffin, Principal Consultant at FutureRise; Ryan Craig, Author and Investor behind Achieve Partners and Apprenticeships for America; Jeff Selingo, higher education thought leader and longtime higher ed journalist;...

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Breaking Down Hiring Standards, AI, and Evolving Talent Pathways show art Breaking Down Hiring Standards, AI, and Evolving Talent Pathways

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In this episode, Joe and guest co-host Dr. Anastasia Wickham, Provost and Chief Academic Officer at Reach University, chat with Matt Sigelman, President of the Burning Glass Institute, and Mark Schneider, Nonresident Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and Distinguished Professor Emeritus at Stony Brook University. Together, they discuss the intersection of labor and education market data, why employers are dropping bachelor’s degree requirements and what that signals for the value of the degree, whether admissions standards truly matter in today’s education landscape,...

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Rethinking the College-to-Career Pipeline show art Rethinking the College-to-Career Pipeline

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In this episode, Joe chats with Alison Griffin, Principal with FutureRise, and Jeff Selingo, higher education strategist and longtime journalist. Together, they discuss whether higher education and the workforce are due for radical realignment, what’s driving the shift toward apprenticeship and work-based learning, evolving student perspectives on career pathways and how institutions are responding, what needs to happen with higher ed and workforce policy, what a more aligned education-to-workforce system could look like moving forward, and much more. Read these recent articles from...

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The Apprenticeship College of Health: Reimagining the Healthcare Career Pathway show art The Apprenticeship College of Health: Reimagining the Healthcare Career Pathway

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In this episode, Joe and guest co-host Laura Hopkins, Executive Director of the Healthcare Training Fund, chat with Dr. Metoka Welch, Executive Dean of the Apprenticeship College of Health (ACH); Dr. Anastasia Wickham, Provost and Chief Academic Officer at Reach University; and Melody McKee, Director of Behavioral Strategy at the Healthcare Training Fund. Together, they discuss the impetus and origins of the ACH, why apprenticeship degrees are needed in behavioral health, how the ACH differs from other healthcare apprenticeship pathways, how the ACH will maintain a rigorous curriculum while...

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In this episode of Apprenticeship 2.0, Joe and Kiko chat with Shalin Jyotishi, Founder and Managing Director of New America’s Future of Work and Innovation Economy Initiative, where he specializes in the intersection of science, workforce, and industrial policy and their implementation. Together, they discuss the White House’s AI action plan and what that could mean for apprenticeship; the potential for AI apprenticeships in secondary and postsecondary education; the role of state workforce development departments and regional and state associations in advancing AI and apprenticeship; and much more.

Shalin can be found on LinkedIn, X, and Bluesky.

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Music by Evgeny Bardyuzha from Pixabay.