013: Mastering Probate Real Estate: Insights and Strategies with Matias Baker Masucci
Probate Notes: Your Guide to Navigating California Probate Law
Release Date: 10/07/2025
Probate Notes: Your Guide to Navigating California Probate Law
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In this episode of Probate Notes, host Sam Price breaks down the practical realities of marshaling financial accounts during probate administration. The conversation focuses on what executors and administrators must actually do after appointment, including tracking down accounts, working with banks, and gathering the documentation needed to access estate funds without delays or missteps. The discussion also clarifies the key differences between cash accounts, brokerage accounts, paper securities, and retirement accounts, with special attention to timing, tax implications, and required minimum...
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In this episode of Probate Notes, Sam welcomes trust and estates litigator Terrence Franklin for a powerful conversation that blends probate law, history, and personal discovery. Terrence shares that, decades into his legal career, he uncovered a 19th-century will contest that directly shaped his family’s freedom and reshaped his understanding of the law’s role in justice. The discussion traces Terrence’s path from Harvard Law School to trust and estates litigation, before turning to the remarkable story of his fourth great-grandmother, Lucy, who was enslaved in the 1840s. Through a...
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In this episode of Probate Notes, Sam flips the script and brings listeners inside his own law firm to explore a part of probate practice that often gets overlooked: the first phone call. That initial conversation sets the tone for the entire attorney-client relationship, shaping expectations around cost, timeline, communication, and trust. Sam explains why attorneys are often not the best people to handle these early conversations and how a well-trained intake professional can improve both client experience and firm efficiency. Joining Sam is Brandie Cooper, a client care specialist at Price...
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In this episode of Probate Notes, Sam welcomes Sharon Vidano, a former criminal defense attorney turned certified life coach, for a conversation about mindset, energy, and intentional living in the legal profession. Drawing on her own experience practicing law, Sharon explains why so many attorneys find themselves living on autopilot, pushing through long hours, high stress, and constant demands without ever stopping to ask whether the life they’re building actually feels fulfilling. Sharon introduces the idea of “living by default” versus “living by design,” emphasizing that change...
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Family disputes over trusts and estates don’t just involve legal questions. They carry decades of emotional history, misunderstandings, and tension that money alone can’t resolve. In this episode of Probate Notes, Sam sits down with veteran trust-and-estate mediator Daniel I. Spector to explore how mediation offers an effective, human-centered alternative to years of bruising litigation. Dan walks through what mediation actually looks like inside probate disputes — how neutral fact-framing works, why listening for understanding (not rebuttal) changes negotiations, and how collaborative...
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Probate bonds play a critical role in California probate cases, yet many practitioners still find the process confusing. In this episode of Probate Notes, Sam sits down with attorney and surety-bond specialist Paul Shakarian to clarify how bonds work, how applicants get approved, and the factors that influence underwriting. Paul shares his transition from practicing law to running a bond agency, along with practical guidance on premiums, renewals, bond riders, and exoneration. His insights help attorneys, fiduciaries, and administrators avoid common bonding pitfalls that stall probate cases....
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Ever felt bogged down by the endless paperwork in the legal field? On this episode of Probate Notes, Chris Floyd from EDEX Information Systems shares how his company is revolutionizing the way legal professionals handle their mail. Chris shares how EDEX transitioned from aiding the California State Workers' Compensation System to becoming an essential partner for attorneys, especially during the pandemic's shift to remote work. Learn how the challenges of managing extensive mailings in probate law can be effortlessly overcome with EDEX's innovative print and mail service. Imagine if sending...
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On this episode of Probate Notes, join Sam for an engaging conversation with Matias Baker Masucci, who transitioned from the fast-paced world of entertainment to become a seasoned real estate broker in Southern California. Matias reveals how his entertainment background has provided him with exceptional communication skills, which are now vital to his success in real estate. He shares the journey behind creating The Probate Realtor Show, a podcast designed to clear up misconceptions and provide easy-to-understand information about probate real estate, often mistaken for legal advice.
Matias dives into the significance of structured workflows in managing probate and trust sales, unraveling the complexities involved in these transactions. With a methodical approach, he ensures consistent service delivery while juggling multiple sales, focusing on acquiring key documents and understanding disclosure requirements. Matias discusses the art of communicating effectively with attorneys and sellers, emphasizing the importance of understanding property knowledge limitations. His insights shed light on navigating probate sales efficiently, from court confirmations to handling retraders who can complicate sales with last-minute price reductions.
This episode offers a wealth of practical strategies for avoiding potential pitfalls in probate sales. Matias delves into the critical role of having separate agents for buyers and sellers to prevent conflicts of interest and protect the estate's value. He shares tactics like thorough pre-offer inspections and setting non-refundable deposits to counter retraders. The conversation also explores the nuances of property condition disclosures and the importance of transparency, particularly when dealing with distressed assets.
Matias's expertise equips listeners with the tools to minimize stress for families involved in probate transactions while maximizing returns.
In this episode, you will hear:
- Matias Masucci’s transition from the entertainment industry to real estate, highlighting his communication skills and motivation for starting The Probate Realtor Show
- The importance of structured workflows in probate and trust sales to ensure consistent service and efficient transaction management
- Legal terms and processes essential for navigating probate real estate transactions, including the Residential Purchase Agreement and Notice of Proposed Action (NOPA)
- Strategies for avoiding pitfalls with retraders and protecting the estate's value, including thorough inspections and setting non-refundable deposits
- The role of agent visual inspections in probate sales, ensuring transparency and protecting all parties involved
- Insight into the court confirmation process in California probate sales, including the overbid system and the importance of marketing to potential overbidders
- Tips on effective communication with attorneys to facilitate smooth probate transactions and avoid delays
Resources from this Episode
The 6-Stage Probate Process: How to Navigate California Probate: https://a.co/d/82310Rw
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