EP 39: Interview with Max: How Does the Betrayed Partner Deal with Comparisons with the Affair Partner?
Release Date: 04/22/2025
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info_outlineHow do you reclaim your worth when your reflection is distorted by someone else's betrayal—when every glance in the mirror whispers, 'they chose them over me".... or "they gave them what they wouldn't give me?"
The cruelest part of infidelity isn’t just the betrayal—it’s the quiet, relentless comparison that follows. Today you'll hear from frequent guest Max and how he was able to break free from what felt like insurmountable comparisons with multiple affair partners.
When you're betrayed, it often times feels like being erased while still standing right there. Like someone took everything you were proud of—your love, your body, your quirks, your memories—and put them on a scale against a stranger you never invited into your story.
Being compared to an affair partner can feel like:
A. Losing a silent competition you never knew you were in. Suddenly, you're questioning your looks, your personality, your value. You start noticing flaws you never saw before, because you're measuring yourself against someone who shouldn’t even be in the picture. You begin to question everything in life and in your relationship.
B. Betrayal layered with shame. It’s not just that they chose someone else—it’s the gut-punch that maybe they thought that other person was more exciting, more desirable and more of a fit for them. Somehow, that shame sticks to you, even though you're not the one who cheated.
C. Being trapped in your own mind. Even if no one says it out loud, you hear the comparisons anyway. You imagine what they had that you didn’t. You replay moments in your head, trying to figure out why they were willing to risk so much, for so little.
D. A deep hit to your identity. It makes you doubt who you are. What you offered. Whether anything you shared was ever truly seen, let alone appreciated.
It’s grief mixed with self-doubt, anger tangled up with sorrow. And worst of all, it’s incredibly isolating—because even when you're surrounded by people, it can still feel like you're alone in a room full of questions.
Despite the agony of it all, there is a way through and there is healing available for you. It's vital to remember you are not alone and you are not the only one. It doesn't mean it won't feel like it and it doesn't mean you won't question what feels like everything and maybe even everyone at times. Perhaps today you'll find there is light at the end of the tunnel and there are survivors to this agonizing pain who return from the shadows with a torch in their hand, ready to share their heroic journey of survival and resilience.
To Healing,
Sam
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Sam’s Healing Podcast is brought to you by one of infidelity recovery’s most prominent and gifted influencers and YouTuber. For 15 years, Samuel has been online as one of the the leading spokespersons for healing and recovery of both betrayed and unfaithful spouses. After more than a decade of blogging and filming under one of the betrayal trauma’s founding fathers, famed clinician Rick Reynolds of affairrecovery.com, Sam has ventured out to pursue, create and live out his lifelong vision and passion for healing those touched by the trauma of infidelity. Through his new podcast and YouTube channel Samuel will continue to bring his own personal experiences with infidelity recovery along with delivering the most current and up-to-date clinical wisdom and healing modalities for recovery after an affair. Sam will also be expanding into the other critical areas of developing healthy relationships such as emotional and sexual connection, the impact of childhood sexual abuse and dysfunctional patterns of relating on marital intimacy, problematic communication patterns, complex, attachment and intergenerational trauma, compulsive sexual behavior, boundaries and the importance of inner-child healing work. Reach out to contact Samuel for personal coaching sessions at samshealingpodcast@gmail.com.