19 : Stop Pushing Clients Away With Too Much Education and Pull Them In with Curiosity and Connection Instead
NewLaw Podcast for Entrepreneurial Lawyers with Ali Katz
Release Date: 07/29/2024
NewLaw Podcast for Entrepreneurial Lawyers with Ali Katz
What if you could hear proof โ real, undeniable proof โ that breaking free from burnout and frustration is not only possible, but itโs already happening for lawyers just like you? Click Here ๐ (๐ข๐ง๐ต๐ฆ๐ณ ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ listen to ๐ต๐ฉ๐ช๐ด ๐ฑ๐ฐ๐ฅ๐ค๐ข๐ด๐ต ๐ฆ๐ฑ๐ช๐ด๐ฐ๐ฅ๐ฆ, ๐ค๐ญ๐ช๐ค๐ฌ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ญ๐ช๐ฏ๐ฌ ๐ข๐ฃ๐ฐ๐ท๐ฆ ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ณ ๐ง๐ณ๐ฆ๐ฆ 15-๐ฎ๐ช๐ฏ๐ถ๐ต๐ฆ ๐ต๐ณ๐ข๐ช๐ฏ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ) In this inspiring episode of the NewLaw Podcast for Entrepreneurial Lawyers, Ali Katz shares...
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Are you tired of feeling like youโre running on empty, trapped by a legal system that doesnโt appear to be designed to support you? Click Here ๐ (๐ข๐ง๐ต๐ฆ๐ณ ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ listen to ๐ต๐ฉ๐ช๐ด ๐ฑ๐ฐ๐ฅ๐ค๐ข๐ด๐ต ๐ฆ๐ฑ๐ช๐ด๐ฐ๐ฅ๐ฆ, ๐ค๐ญ๐ช๐ค๐ฌ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ญ๐ช๐ฏ๐ฌ ๐ข๐ฃ๐ฐ๐ท๐ฆ ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ณ ๐ง๐ณ๐ฆ๐ฆ 15-๐ฎ๐ช๐ฏ๐ถ๐ต๐ฆ ๐ต๐ณ๐ข๐ช๐ฏ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ) In this powerful episode of the NewLaw Podcast for Entrepreneurial Lawyers, Ali Katz shines a light on the hidden forces behind lawyer...
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๐๐๐ฒ๐ฟ ๐ณ๐ฒ๐ฒ๐น ๐น๐ถ๐ธ๐ฒ ๐น๐ฎ๐ ๐๐ฐ๐ต๐ผ๐ผ๐น ๐ฝ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฝ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฑ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐๐ผ ๐ฏ๐ฒ ๐ฎ ๐น๐ฎ๐๐๐ฒ๐ฟโ๐ฏ๐๐ ๐ป๐ผ๐ ๐ต๐ผ๐ ๐๐ผ ๐๐ต๐ฟ๐ถ๐๐ฒ ๐ฎ๐ ๐ผ๐ป๐ฒ? Click Here ๐ (๐ข๐ง๐ต๐ฆ๐ณ ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ ๐ธ๐ข๐ต๐ค๐ฉ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ช๐ด ๐ฑ๐ฐ๐ฅ๐ค๐ข๐ด๐ต ๐ฆ๐ฑ๐ช๐ด๐ฐ๐ฅ๐ฆ, ๐ค๐ญ๐ช๐ค๐ฌ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ญ๐ช๐ฏ๐ฌ ๐ข๐ฃ๐ฐ๐ท๐ฆ ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ณ ๐ง๐ณ๐ฆ๐ฆ 15-๐ฎ๐ช๐ฏ๐ถ๐ต๐ฆ...
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In this episode, Ali Katz dives deep into two essential topics for entrepreneurial lawyers: the Corporate Transparency Act and proactive tax time planning. Ali illustrates the importance of thinking ahead when it comes to taxes, a key differentiator between employees and business owners. Drawing on personal experience, Ali explains how proper tax planning in the final months of the year can save business owners from unexpected tax burdens. She also underscores the importance of complying with the Corporate Transparency Act to avoid hefty penalties, offering practical tips and resources for...
info_outlineIn this episode of the NewLaw Podcast for Entrepreneurial Lawyers with Ali Katz, we join a coaching session where Steve, an entrepreneurial lawyer, seeks advice on acquiring his first practice clients in estate planning. Ali offers actionable strategies to shift from educating potential clients to engaging them with curiosity and building meaningful conversations. The episode highlights the importance of setting clear goals, understanding client experiences, and leveraging personal interactions to transition smoothly into a new practice area.
Key Takeaways:
- Engage with Curiosity: Shift from educating potential clients to asking curiosity-driven questions about their experiences and needs in estate planning.
- Set Clear Goals: Establish specific, time-bound goals to stay focused and motivated in your transition to a new practice area.
- Leverage Personal Interactions: Use everyday interactions and past client relationships to initiate conversations about estate planning.
- Offer Value Through Planning Sessions: Emphasize the importance of family wealth planning sessions to provide tailored, valuable advice and solutions.
- Consistent Follow-Up: Maintain regular contact and follow up with potential clients to build trust and move them towards engagement.
01:41 Steve mentions his attempts to get practice clients by sending letters, but notes he hasn't had much success, prompting a deeper look into his approach.
02:22 Steve describes his conversations, which focused more on informing clients about the process rather than engaging their personal experiences and needs.
04:06 Ali advises Steve on shifting his approach to client conversations by using curiosity to understand their unique circumstances, rather than just providing information.
06:51 Ali suggests a script for Steve to explain the family wealth planning session process, demonstrating how to provide value and secure client commitment.
09:44 Ali encourages Steve to set specific goals and dates to ensure deliberate progress in his practice, rather than vague timelines, to drive his business forward.
11:03 Ali gives Steve practical advice on using curiosity questions in everyday interactions to gather market research and foster genuine connections, even during routine activities like attending hearings.