Part 2 of 2: "Wagz" 🎙️When Metrics Meet the Heart: The Science of Relationship Fitness
Release Date: 11/26/2025
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info_outline🎙️When Metrics Meet the Heart: The Science of Relationship Fitness | William "Wagz" Wagner
What happens when the same mind that builds billion-dollar systems turns that precision inward, to measure love, trust, and truth?
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Most leaders think of measurement as data, numbers, and KPIs. But what if the real key performance indicators of your life are emotional: trust, respect, and alignment?
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In Part 2 of this raw, revealing conversation, William “Wagz” Wagner and Dov Baron dive deeper into how an engineer-turned-coach built a framework to quantify the unquantifiable: the health of your relationships.
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Wagz shows how the same systems that transform corporations can heal marriages, friendships, and teams. Together, they unpack the uncomfortable truth that most people don’t actually want better relationships, they want the other person to get better.
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As Dov says,
“I’ve watched countless leaders hide behind their spreadsheets—until their marriages collapse.”
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This episode cuts through the illusion of control, revealing how self-awareness, emotional honesty, and measurable accountability can rebuild the very connections that success too often erodes.
🔥 In This Episode
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How to apply continuous-improvement principles to emotional connection
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Why clarity without self-knowledge breeds resentment
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The Relationship Fitness App—how data meets empathy
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The fatal trap of control and validation in leadership and love
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How resentment forms when your commitments violate your values
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What business partners can learn from marriage therapy
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The hidden pain that drove Wagz to build this model—and how it changed his family forever
👊 About William “Wagz” Wagner
Engineer, business architect, and author of Relationship Fitness, Wagz merges decades of corporate transformation experience with deep emotional intelligence. His measurable approach to relational growth has helped leaders, couples, and teams rebuild trust through clarity, alignment, and accountability.
💥 Listen If You’ve Ever
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Tried to fix relationships by controlling outcomes
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Led teams that couldn’t align, no matter how many meetings you held
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Wanted to bridge the gap between emotional awareness and measurable growth
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Realized your ambition outpaced your self-awareness
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Known that every spreadsheet hides a story of unmet expectations
đź’ Reflection Challenge
Where in your leadership—or your love—are you still trying to control what should be measured, and measuring what should be felt?
🔗 Connect with William “Wagz” Wagner
Book: https://www.relationshipfitnesscoach.com/
Website: peopleworkingbettertogether.com
Email: wags@peopleworkingbettertogether.com
🧠Keywords / Hashtags for Apple Discovery
#TheDovBaronShow #WilliamWagzWagner #RelationshipFitness #Leadership #EmotionalSourceCode #Trust #Alignment #SelfAwareness #EmotionalIntelligence #BusinessRelationships #RelationshipApp #PurposeDrivenLeadership #EmotionalAccountability #EliteThinkers #CulturesOfBelonging