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Get Buyers to Chase You, Not the Other Way Around with Jordan Eisner

Building Your Sales Engine

Release Date: 03/06/2025

Manage the Exceptions: Build the Right Sales Dials w/ Chris Blum show art Manage the Exceptions: Build the Right Sales Dials w/ Chris Blum

Building Your Sales Engine

How to build validated sales dashboards, manage exceptions, and make better decisions—without flying by gut feel.  To find our handout for this episode, click .  Static reports are lagging. In this conversation, Mark McGraw and Chris Blum (EH Blum Company) walk through moving from canned outputs to interactive, validated dashboards. Start simple (revenue, mix, low-margin drivers), manage the exceptions, hunt the 1% margin gains, and use leading vs. lagging indicators to forecast. Chris shares a private-pilot “six dials” framework (trust instruments, not feel), how to...

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How to hire, place, and coach sellers with assessments—so you avoid hunter/farmer mis-hires and reduce burnout. Assessments aren’t paperwork—they’re how you hire better, place smarter, and coach faster. Mark McGraw and Rachel Chang break down using work style/DISC, personality, sales capacity, and object reasoning assessments to prevent bad hires, align roles with natural strengths, and target training where it moves the needle. Interviews show experience; assessments reveal potential and capacity. 🔗 Download exclusive sales resources at: Guest: Rachel Chang — Project and...

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How to lead sales teams through change with KPI discipline, psychological safety, clear cadence, and a risk register so signal beats noise. Change doesn’t break sales—silence and guesswork do. In this episode, Mark McGraw and guest Heather Martin lay out a practical playbook for leading teams through change: build a KPI foundation before you pivot, create psychological safety so truth flows up, communicate like a sales cycle (even when the update is “I don’t know yet”), and use a risk register to prioritize signal over noise.   In this episode: • Sales and pipeline are lagging...

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Long sales cycles aren’t a patience test—they’re a process. In this episode, Mark McGraw and guest Brian Hayes break down how to win 12–24-month capital deals without rushing: speak the buyer’s language, use curiosity to find context, and build momentum through meaningful next steps instead of shortcuts. In this episode: Why speed kills deals (and how context saves them) Capital buying reality: budgets, board approval, and timing Cost of delay as a lever to align urgency The Italy negotiation story: delivery date > everything else Stakeholder mapping: “Who else is...

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Elite selling isn’t hype — it’s standards. In this episode, Mark McGraw talks with sales leader and master connector Rob Vaka about how to link mindset to technique so you sell with clarity, qualify fast, and build trust that lasts. In this episode: The connector mindset: be more interested than interesting Curiosity that leads to real discovery (not interrogation) Up-Front Contracts (UFC): agenda, time, outcome — clarity that reduces pressure Fit-first qualification: why “we may not be a fit” builds credibility Situational fluency: get in more rooms, play up, learn...

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Stress isn’t the enemy — it’s energy. In this episode, Mark McGraw talks with Dr. Rebecca Heiss, stress physiologist, keynote speaker, and author of Springboard, about how a simple mindset shift can transform performance in sales, leadership, and life. Rebecca explains why believing “stress is bad” is linked to worse outcomes, why “calm down” fights your biology, and how to reframe stress into focus, service, and action. You’ll hear practical, science-backed tools you can use before your next presentation or sales call. In this episode: The “stress mindset” and why the...

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In this episode of Building Your Sales Engine, Mark McGraw sits down with Emily Yepes to explore the tension between sales theory and real-world execution. They dive into four core concepts—upfront contracts, pricing, demos, and decision-making—and reveal how the best salespeople adapt when things don’t go by the book. Whether you’re navigating internal power dynamics or figuring out how to tailor your message to an analytical buyer, this episode is a masterclass in pivoting with purpose. Topics covered: The difference between breaking the rules and earning the right to break them ...

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In this episode of Building Your Sales Engine, Mark McGraw welcomes Matt Detjen—North American Training Manager at Michelin and author of 'REFLECT: The Art of Powerful Sales Communication.' Matt shares the mindset shifts and practical frameworks that help sales professionals move beyond surface-level rapport and into deeper, more effective communication with their clients. They explore how to build real rapport, the importance of reflective listening, and how to navigate emotional conversations that lead to trust and results. Matt breaks down how better listening unlocks sales...

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Mark McGraw sits down with Matt Martella, a seasoned executive with over 30 years of experience in tech, media, and digital advertising sales. They dive into the real-world challenges and strategies of cross-selling in B2B environments—from compensation misalignment to fear-based mindsets. This episode is a practical deep dive for sales leaders and sellers alike, packed with insights on how to build trust, align sales behavior with corporate strategy, and increase revenue by unlocking the full potential of your portfolio. To find our handout for this episode, click . Matt outlines how...

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Mark McGraw shares the four steps for having a tough conversation with someone. He explains why most of us avoid conflict, how fear distorts reality, and what happens when we wait too long to speak up.  To find our handout for this episode, click .  Tune in to hear a powerful mindset shift, a simple 4-step conversation framework, and the surprising formula that will change how you approach confrontation forever. Mark explains how most of us struggle with confrontation. He admits he’s not naturally wired to lean into conflict, which makes it easy to avoid hard conversations. Over...

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Mark McGraw sits down with Jordan Eisner to discuss what makes a top salesperson and why a winning mindset is super important in sales.

Jordan shares how to build strong client relationships, ways to ask the right qualifying questions, and why sales is never about the money but about winning.

To find our handout for this episode, click here.

Tune in to hear why curiosity is a salesperson’s greatest asset, how to approach networking the right way, and ways to get your buyers to convince themselves that they need to buy.

  • Jordan starts by describing his journey from consulting to sales.
  • Mark and Jordan agree that sales is never about the money. While money is a great reward, it’s not the real reason top salespeople thrive. The true motivator is the thrill of winning and consistently delivering results.
  • The key traits to look for when hiring salespeople. Jordan and Mark break down the qualities that separate average salespeople from top performers.
  • Jordan reveals how their firm generates half of its annual revenue from existing customers. He explains how focusing on client relationships and continuously providing value makes upsells and cross-sells effortless.
  • Every first Monday of the month, Jordan’s account executives are required to bring in an account and discuss why they are reaching out to them. This simple practice ensures that sales teams stay proactive in nurturing client relationships and generating referrals.
  • Mark on the most underutilized way to get new business. Referrals are one of the easiest yet most overlooked ways to generate new sales opportunities. Mark shares how leveraging a “referral tree” can help build a steady pipeline of warm leads.
  • How to build a strong sales culture. According to Jordan, a high-performing sales team is not built on just numbers and driving sales—it’s built on the environment you create.
  • Jordan explains how a strong culture of support, accountability, and shared success can lead to better team performance.
  • Why micromanagement never works. Mark and Jordan agree that a "my way or the highway" approach doesn’t work in sales. Setting clear expectations and giving salespeople the freedom to execute in their own way leads to better results.
  • The power of asking “why” in sales – Jordan teaches his team to always ask "why" instead of blindly following instructions.
  • Learn how curiosity can make you a top salesperson. By asking the right questions and actively listening, sales reps can build stronger relationships and uncover deeper needs.
  • Jordan explains that people love talking about themselves, and the best salespeople tap into this by being genuinely interested in their clients.
  • What to look for in a sales rep.While money motivation helps, Mark emphasizes that the desire to win is an even stronger predictor of success. He looks for candidates who are competitive, persistent, and eager to improve.
  • Jordan shares why networking should never be about immediately trying to sell. Instead, building authentic relationships and providing value first leads to more meaningful business opportunities in the long run.
  • Understand that people love to buy but hate being sold to. The best salespeople don’t push—they position themselves as trusted advisors.
  • Jordan shares how creating value and guiding the buyer to their own decision makes selling effortless.
  • How to get buyers to convince you instead of you convincing them.
  • Instead of aggressively pitching, Jordan advises asking strategic questions that get the buyer to justify their own need for the product. When done right, the prospect ends up persuading themselves.
  • Mark and Jordan discuss the power of walking away from a deal and why true sales confidence comes from knowing you don’t need every deal.
  • When salespeople listen more than they talk, closing deals becomes much easier. Mark explains that the best sales conversations involve asking open-ended questions that prompt the prospect to reveal their needs.
  • Jordan explains why the Sandler Training  system works. Sandler Training turns instinctive selling techniques into a repeatable, teachable framework. This makes it easier to onboard new salespeople and ensure consistency in results.
  • Uncover the one mistake that wastes the most time in sales.
  • Jordan warns that failing to ask tough qualifying questions early in the process leads to wasted time chasing the wrong prospects.

 

 

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Sandler.com

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Jordan Eisner on LinkedIn

The Goal: A Process of Ongoing Improvement by Eliyahu M Goldratt and Jeff Cox

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