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Episode 9: Ecology of Belonging and the "B" of DEIB

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Release Date: 03/05/2024

Episode 19: The Future of DEI - Challenges, Opportunities and Hope as Essential show art Episode 19: The Future of DEI - Challenges, Opportunities and Hope as Essential

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In this episode of the Deicipher Podcast, Ruthann and Yoli Maya Yeh explore the themes of land acknowledgment, the importance of DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) in the current socio-political climate, and the need for active restoration and self-care amidst challenges. They discuss the recent cancellation of federal DEI initiatives and the implications for community care models, emphasizing the importance of hope and localized efforts in driving change. In this conversation, Yoli Maya Yeh and Ruthann explore the complexities of democracy, citizenship, and the historical context of...

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Episode 18: Conflict Engagement - Fumbling in the Field of Repair show art Episode 18: Conflict Engagement - Fumbling in the Field of Repair

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Summary In this episode of the Deicipher Podcast, Ruth Ann Gagnon and Yoli Maya Yeh explore the complexities of conflict, emphasizing the importance of embodied practices and land acknowledgment. They discuss the challenges of navigating stuck places in conflict, the process of fumbling towards repair, and the impact of perfectionism on conflict resolution. The conversation highlights the need for trust, vulnerability, and genuine engagement in conflict situations, as well as the importance of building skills for effective conflict resolution. In this conversation.  They also emphasize...

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Episode 17: Conflict Part 4 - How Do We Engage Conflict with Care? show art Episode 17: Conflict Part 4 - How Do We Engage Conflict with Care?

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In this episode of the Decipher podcast, hosts Ruthann and Yoli Maya Yeh explore the themes of conflict, embodiment, and decolonization. They emphasize the importance of breath and connection, the need for active restoration in conflict engagement, and the role of trust in navigating polarized opinions. The conversation highlights the necessity of integrating mental health into conflict resolution and the potential for conflict to serve as fertile ground for learning and growth. The hosts encourage listeners to engage with their bodies and emotions as they navigate conflict, advocating for a...

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Episode 16: Conflict Engagement Part 3 - Models, Styles, and the Way Forward show art Episode 16: Conflict Engagement Part 3 - Models, Styles, and the Way Forward

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In this episode of the Decipher Podcast, hosts Ruthann Gagnon and Yoli Maya Yeh delve into the complexities of conflict resolution frameworks, emphasizing the importance of embodiment, cultural influences, and the role of language in navigating conflicts. They explore various models of conflict resolution, the impact of power dynamics, and the necessity of understanding emotional intelligence in communication. The conversation culminates in a reflection on nature as a metaphor for conflict resolution, highlighting the interconnectedness of all beings and the potential for healing through...

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Episode 15: Conflict Resolution and Decolonization show art Episode 15: Conflict Resolution and Decolonization

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Wanna join in on the conversation? Head over to to experience this interactive compansion to our podcast In this episode, Ruthann and Yoli continue their conversation on conflict resolution. They start with a land acknowledgement and a focus on connecting to the breath, body, and nature. They discuss how conflict can manifest in the body and the importance of releasing tension in the various places and invite listeners to attune to where tension is held. They explore different approaches to conflict resolution, including consensus decision-making and theater games. They also touch on the...

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Episode 14: Conflict-Resolution: Unlearning, Embodiment, and The Way Forward show art Episode 14: Conflict-Resolution: Unlearning, Embodiment, and The Way Forward

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This episode focuses on conflict resolution and the need to address it in DEI frameworks. We explore the dominant cultural characteristics that influence our relationship with conflict resolution and the limitations of binary thinking. We discuss the internal conflict that arises in DEI work and the importance of engaging with conflict to unlearn and grow. We highlight the potential for growth, belonging, and connection that conflict offers. Our conversation explores how conflict was role-modeled for both ourselves in our households and how it shaped our approach to conflict resolution. We...

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Episode 13: DEI is not D-E-A-D (Dead) show art Episode 13: DEI is not D-E-A-D (Dead)

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In this episode we explore the negative connotations and politicization surrounding DEI, as well as the financial motivations behind it. Our conversation delves into the binary nature of DEI approaches and the need for a more holistic and heart-centered approach. We also discuss the impact of legal precedents on DEI programs, using the example of a reparations program in Evanston, Illinois. We delve into the importance of moving beyond binary thinking and finding alternative ways to create meaningful change. The conversation explores the idea that DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) is not...

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Episode 12: Hammam Dreaming with Sojourner Zenobia show art Episode 12: Hammam Dreaming with Sojourner Zenobia

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Welcome to Episode 12, inspired by the creative dreamy space experienced in the hammams of Fes, Morocco (one of Yoli's absolute favorite places to be). In this episode, we host our wonderful friend and colleague Sojourner Zenobia to discuss the magic of rest, creativity, and connection to the body. We delve into the power of collective rest, creativity and the transformative experiences that can arise from immersive artistic practices. Our conversation flows into the importance of accessing the wisdom and creativity that already exists within the body and the potential for healing and...

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Episode 11: The Power of Liminal Space: A Catalyst for Transformation show art Episode 11: The Power of Liminal Space: A Catalyst for Transformation

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In this episode, we explore the concept of liminal space, which refers to the spaces in between, such as the space between thoughts, sleep and wakefulness, and doing and not doing. Liminal space is a state of consciousness that allows for rest, rejuvenation, and creativity. The conversation also touches on the colonization of sleep and the importance of rest to build a new world of equity. We share our favorite liminal space practices, such as walking and engaging in self-styled retreats. In this conversation, and the concept of liminal space and its importance in personal growth and...

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Episode 10: The Nature of DEI, the DEI of Nature show art Episode 10: The Nature of DEI, the DEI of Nature

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Our conversation explores the deep connection between nature and our well-being, emphasizing the importance of spending time in nature for self-regulation and embodiment. It highlights the need to look to nature for solutions and inspiration, as nature is a perfect design and we are part of it. Our conversation also touches on the discomfort that can arise when connecting with nature, as well as the fear and intellectualization that can hinder our relationship with the natural world. It suggests that nature is a powerful tool for diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives, as it...

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In this conversation, we discuss the concept of belonging and its implications in various settings. We explore the imposition of belonging in DEI initiatives and the challenges of defining and experiencing true belonging. We also discuss the hierarchical nature of organizations and the need for a more inclusive and fluid understanding of belonging. The conversation highlights the importance of self-belonging and connection to nature in fostering a sense of belonging. We share personal experiences of belonging and emphasize the ongoing process of cultivating belonging in different contexts. The conversation explores the concept of belonging and its various dimensions. It delves into the magnetic pull and body knowing that comes with belonging, as well as the joyfulness and rituals that foster a sense of community. The loss of belonging and the grieving process are also discussed, highlighting the bond that is formed within a community. The conversation then examines the role of retreat spaces in creating a sense of belonging and the flaws in the capitalist framework when it comes to fostering true belonging. The importance of belonging in nature and the antidote to toxicity are explored, along with the spiritual journey of belonging. We conclude by emphasizing the need for true transformation and the empowerment that comes with embracing discomfort in the pursuit of belonging.
 
Takeaways
  • Belonging is a subjective experience that cannot be prescriptive or imposed.
  • The concept of belonging is often used in DEI initiatives, but its meaning and implementation vary.
  • Belonging requires a sense of connection to oneself, others, and nature.
  • True belonging is a process, not a finish line, and requires ongoing effort and reflection. Belonging is characterized by a magnetic pull and body knowing.
  • Joyfulness, laughter, and rituals foster a sense of community.
  • The loss of belonging can lead to a grieving process.
  • Belonging in retreat spaces can be powerful but is not necessarily meant to last forever.
  • The capitalist framework often fails to foster true belonging.
  • Belonging in nature is characterized by interbeing and the presence of antidotes to toxicity.
  • Belonging is a spiritual journey that requires embracing discomfort and undergoing true transformation.
Chapters
00:00Introduction and Land Acknowledgement
06:46Exploring the Concept of Belonging
12:30The Imposition of Belonging
16:33Belonging in Corporate Settings
21:43The Process of Belonging
23:43Belonging and Connection
25:23Peak Belonging Experience
26:17The Magnetic Pull of Belonging
26:50Joyfulness and Rituals
27:19Grieving the Loss of Belonging
28:12The Bond of Belonging
29:02Belonging in Retreat Spaces
29:56The Flaws in the Concept of Belonging
30:27Belonging and Capitalism
31:30Belonging and Departure
32:22Belonging in Nature
33:21The Antidote to Toxicity
34:17Belonging as a Spiritual Journey
37:04Micro Moments of Belonging
38:22Belonging and the Capitalist Framework
39:01The Fear of Liberation
40:25The Guru Model and Hierarchy
41:19The Need for True Transformation
42:34The Discomfort of Belonging
43:44The Empowerment of Discomfort
45:06The Dangers of Performative Belonging
46:29Belonging as a Devotion
47:09Belonging to Self and Others
47:54Belonging Rooted in the Earth