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Making Sense of The Flow State - Episode 90

Makes Sense - with Dr. JC Doornick

Release Date: 05/08/2025

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There’s a moment when everything clicks. Time dissolves, distractions vanish, and you become one with whatever you’re doing—whether it's writing, coding, competing, or creating. It feels effortless, but it’s far from accidental. Flow State is the pinnacle of human performance where focus, creativity, and productivity align in perfect harmony.

We’ve all tasted it. Few know how to find it again. Even fewer understand how to control it.

For decades, scientists and peak performers have sought to demystify the concept of Flow, turning what was once seen as a rare gift into a repeatable process. But hidden beneath all the talk of peak performance lies a truth most people never hear:

The name of the game is struggle. Flow begins in Struggle. In other words, the task at hand must be challenging. If you are a skilled painter, writer, or public speaker and don’t test your skills with uncomfortable challenges, you diminish the odds of entering the flow state. 

If you avoid or don’t know how to handle that struggle, you’ll never reach the state where your best work and self come alive. 

Today, we will explore what legends like Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi and Steven Kotler revealed about Flow. But more importantly, we’ll uncover how Dr. JC Doornick’s Interface Response System (IRS) could be the X-Factor. This conscious tool helps you navigate adversity, shift your perspective, and hack into Flow on demand.

Because once you understand how to change the way you look at struggle, the struggle becomes your gateway, and life starts to Make Sense.

 

Episode 90 Resources:

Flow by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi  - https://amzn.to/3F4NvAP

Rise of Superman - https://amzn.to/4kcMdmd

The Power of Full Engagement - https://amzn.to/437GUxs

 

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0:00 - Intro 

3:14 - The birth of Flow with Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi

4:40 - Modern Day Flow by Steven Kotler

5:35 - The 4 Stages of the Flow Cycle

8:57 - Hacking Flow

12:37 - The IRS (Interface Response System) as a Flow Hacking Tool

17:00 - 5 Core truths from the masters