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Catching Up to FI: Financial Independence for Late Starters

Release Date: 08/04/2024

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Catching Up to FI: Financial Independence for Late Starters

Dr. Daniel Crosby took a circuitous path to the world of money — starting as a psychologist and ending up as one of the most engaging voices in behavioral finance. He is Chief Behavioral Officer at Orion and author of The Soul of Wealth. Dr. Crosby goes beyond the math to the meaning: identity, autonomy, and why 'you don't really want to be rich, you want to be free.' He joins the show to talk us through: Reframing money as a tool for time freedom, relationships, and purpose—not status Using behavior science to close the gap between 'knowing' and 'doing'  Downshifting lifestyle...

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Our guest today is Beth Pinsker, CFPĀ®-- seasoned financial journalist, MarketWatch columnist and author of the new book, My Mother's Money: A Guide to Financial Caregiving. She represents the sandwich generation and gives us tips, advice, and cautionary tales about her firsthand experience after finding herself caring for her mother and her finances. She explains that caregiving isn't just forms and bank calls—it's love, logistics, and a dash of stubborn grit. Beth also shares: The "death file" story that changed everything How to survive bank pushbacks on powers of attorney Why a tiny...

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50 people (now friends), 9 countries... all in one room, speaking the same language: Financial Independence! This is a special episode recorded live from in beautiful Bali, Indonesia at the FI Freedom Retreat. Australian blogger and podcaster, 'Captain FI',  joins Jackie as guest co-host to share the FI stories of three of the extraordinary individuals we met at the retreat: Claire (Dubai via Ireland)- Restarting and living by the philosophy of 'trust your gut' Michael (Seattle)- Newly nomadic, choosing FI-enough over perfection Val (Hong Kong)- Taking a gap year that feels like several...

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Dr. Brad Klontz is a leading expert in financial psychology, professor, bestselling author, and, oh yeah — an internet influencer with millions of followers who tune in for his mix of straight talk and practical money wisdom.  He joins Bill for a deep dive into why most money problems aren't math problems. Instead, they are about what’s going on in our heads and in our habits. In this episode, Brad discusses: Why smart people still make dumb money mistakes The difference between poor and broke The 4 money scripts (avoidance, worship, status, vigilance) Why he argues that an internal...

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Jackie joins our friends to the north in Canada for a live taping of TD Direct Investing's 'Inside Investing', turning her late-starter playbook into a friendly masterclass for Canadians and Americans alike. Host Rob Moysey tees up her arc—divorce in her 30s with ~$20k in retirement savings, millionaire a decade later, retired at 49. Jackie fills in the human bits: purpose after FI, why 'precision is not required,' and how a BetterInvesting club cured her market fear.  She also walks through:  The simple engine that did the work: Maxing out an employer retirement plan, Roth...

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Today’s episode is something TRULY special— something that’s never happened before! For the first time ever… we’re joined by two remarkable women who’ve lived alongside one of the most influential voices in the FI community, JL Collins. In this one-of-a-kind episode we introduce you to his wife, Jane Collins and daughter, Jessica Collins. This is their first-ever joint podcast appearance. We’re pulling back the curtain to hear their perspectives. What was it like living with someone so passionate about financial independence? How did his philosophy shape their lives, their...

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If you're within ten years of retirement (early or traditional age) or just want to get a head start on going from being a saver to a spender, this episode is for you. Decumulation without drama—that’s the mission as retirement pros Dana Anspach (Sensible Money) and Fritz Gilbert (The Retirement Manifesto) join the show to turn ā€œbuild-your-own paycheckā€ into a repeatable process. Dana lays out why drawdown is a hundred small decisions, not one big leap; and Fritz brings in the field notes. Together they demystify: Tax Pitfalls Timing Social Security Asset Allocation and Location Why...

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