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Catching Up to FI: Financial Independence for Late Starters
Release Date: 08/18/2024
Catching Up to FI: Financial Independence for Late Starters
Darrow Kirkpatrick retired from a 29-year career in civil and software engineering in April 2011 at the age of 50 and started the blog 'Can I Retire Yet' that same year. The Blog was one of the first in the FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) space and focuses on the personal finance needs of anyone who is thinking about retirement or early retirement. He joins us for a deeply human masterclass on retiring, drawing down without drama, and pursuing hard goals the slow, sane way. In this episode, Darrow shares with us: The origins of his blog 'Can I Retire Yet?' How a nervous...
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In this crossover episode, Jackie joins the 'Wicked Pissah Podcast’, brought to you by the Financial Planning Association (FPA) of New England. She trades in the Sunday sweatshirt for her CFP® blazer but still stays true to openly sharing her fascinating money story and spreading financial literacy. They discuss: The story behind her $2-bill savings habit The divorce-day gut punch that pushed her from $20k to FI Why she is so passionate about the 'Catching Up to FI’ platform and late starters How she demystifies FIRE for financial professionals How she tackled the big skeptic...
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Ruth Henderson is the creator of ‘The Happy Saver,’ a beloved New Zealand blog and podcast that brings personal finance down to earth. She transitioned from part-time work to full-time content creation, sharing her journey toward early retirement with honesty, humor, and heart. In this episode we swap notes with her on the financial independence journey of Americans vs. Kiwis (New Zealanders). She also shares with us: Her late starter journey to FI What inspired her to create 'The Happy Saver' to help everyday Kiwis reach FI A breakdown of New Zealand's surprisingly simple ecosystem...
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Azul Terronez went from being an unknown schoolteacher to a Wall Street Journal and USA Today bestselling author. He is co-founder and lead coach at “Authors Who Lead,” a platform dedicated to empowering authors to share their stories. He turns our conversation with him into a courage clinic for would-be storytellers, late starters, and anyone who suspects their "zone of genius" is dying to be unleashed. He gives us the reframe that authorship isn't about words so much as the message beneath them. === PLUTUS AWARDS: ONLY ONE WEEK LEFT TO VOTE === We...
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J.C. and Bev Webber's late-starter journey is proof that resilience + innovation can outrun even a Great Financial Crisis. J.C. gives us his real numbers and how he sprinted from a net worth of ~$120k (age 51) to $1.5M (age 57)—only to see it crash to ~$864k in early 2009. But that didn't derail their plans because he and his wife Bev still retired early and hit the road in their RV. You could say they reached FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) before it was hot! In this episode they walk us through all the twists and turns, giving us the excruciating details that you rarely hear...
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In this midweek episode, Bill and Jackie join the 'The Visible Voices' podcast, hosted by Dr. Resa E Lewiss. We highlight the voice of late starters and discuss: The huge gap that 'Catching Up to FI' is filling and what we mean by the 'silent majority' How shock, regret, and money-trauma can become fuel Unique advantages you may have when beginning your financial independence journey later in life Why micro-steps (Kaizen-style) beat grand gestures every time === VOTE FOR US: PLUTUS AWARDS === We need your vote for the 2025 Plutus Awards! You can now vote...
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We ❤️ Case Studies! Nurse practitioner and mom of three, Lisa, opens up and shares what's in her wallet, and her heart. In this episode we dive into her fascinating late-starter story and financials. She was also this year's brave Case Study at the EconoMe conference and revealed all her numbers in front of a live audience to get crowd-sourced feedback in real time. What transpired afterwards was powerful- she quit her day job and handed in her clinical badge to enjoy a sabbatical she had been longing for! With a little help from some Boldin financial modeling and a Nectarine hourly...
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Morningstar's Christine Benz and investing-history legend Dr. William Bernstein announces the Jonathan Clements "Getting Going on Savings" Initiative. In 2024, Jonathan was diagnosed with a terminal illness and decided to use the proceeds from a final book to kick-start a new program that will directly help fund Roth IRAs for young adults (especially from low-income households) to the tune of $1,000 each. The John C. Bogle Center for Financial Literacy, a 501(c)(3) non-profit, is assisting with the project and 'Catching Up to FI' is proud to spread the word by replaying this conversation that...
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Nick Maggiulli is the data-driven creator of the blog 'Of Dollars And Data', Chief Operating Officer at Ritholtz Wealth, and author of the newly released book 'The Wealth Ladder'. He joins us on the show to break down his six-level wealth ladder and openly shares some of his steps and missteps as he moved up on his own wealth-building journey. In this episode, we discuss these financial insights he shared in the book: Six Wealth Levels (<$10 K to $100 M+) 0.01 % Daily-Growth Spending Rule Grocery / Restaurant / Travel Freedom progression Cookie-cutter asset allocation across ALL accounts...
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Bill hops onto Jesse Cramer's 'Personal Finance for Long-Term Investors' (formally The Best Interest) podcast. Along with some of our favorite content creators, he shares his crazy spending screw ups-- and the life lessons that followed. Stories from: Bill Yount (Catching Up to FI) Jesse Cramer (Personal Finance For Long-Term Investors) Diania Merriam (EconoMe Conference & Optimal Finance Daily) Justin Peters (FI Minded, formally The Struggle is Real) Jordan (Doc G) Grumet (Earn & Invest) Joe Saul-Sehy (Stacking Benjamins) Jeremy Schneider (Personal Finance Club) ...
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Meet Nadia and Nicole, the Wealth Twins! Raised by a single mother in New York City's toughest projects, these twin sisters overcame obstacles to graduate from Columbia University, work on Wall Street, and ultimately achieve early retirement. In this episode, they recount experiences from 9/11 and the 2008 financial crisis, discuss multifamily real estate and dividend investing strategies, and offer practical tips for late financial starters. Learn how they built the Wealth Twins platform to share their knowledge and drive towards financial independence.
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Broke to Financially Independent Retire Early in Less Than 10 years
00:00 Defying Expectations: From Guidance Counselor Doubts to Ivy League Success
00:40 Avoiding Financial Scams: Tips for Beginners02:29 Introduction to Catching Up to FI: Meet the Hosts and Guests
03:24 The Wealth Twins: From Humble Beginnings to Financial Independence
05:39 Discovering Twin Identity: The Twins Festival Experience
09:17 Money Management: Different Approaches to Saving and Spending
12:40 The Influence of a Single Mom: Education and Financial Lessons
18:14 Navigating Tragedy: 9/11 and the Financial Crisis
31:50 Building Passive Income: Real Estate, Dividends, and Entrepreneurship
36:36 Budgeting for Business and Personal Finances
37:03 Investing Together: Sharing Knowledge and Strategies
37:57 Real Estate and Business Management Insights
40:07 Principles of Financial Independence
41:45 The Wealth Twins: Origin and Mission
46:17 Dividend Investing Explained
56:25 Common Investing Mistakes to Avoid
01:11:21 Final Tips and Encouragement for Late Starters
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