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Harnessing the power and momentum from optometry meetings with your operations manager: a conversation with Dr. Todd Cohan & Sadie Blair
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guests on today’s show are Dr. Todd Cohan and Sadie Blair. Todd & Sadie join me on the show today to talk about the successful dynamic that exists between both of them as owner and practice operations manager. Todd shares how impactful it’s been to have a great team member and integrator like Sadie in the practice and how that has allowed the practice to continue to grow. They share how they’ll both process all of the ideas, strategies, and concepts that they (and their team) will have learned at IDOC Connection and how they decide...
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Hiring, empowering, and leading your practice manager in a win-win relationship with Dr. Bethany Fishbein, OD
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Bethany Fishbein, OD. Bethany joins me on the show live from Vision Expo East to talk about one of the most important relationships in an optometric practice: the relationship between the practice manager and the owner/OD. In this conversation, she talks about the evolution of the managerial role in the practice as the practice matures and grows, the characteristics of a valuable practice manager, the mistakes that both she and others have made when filling the practice manager role in the office, and the importance...
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Dr. Jennifer Stewart's "tepid" start optometry practice: the power of vision & intentionality, the importance of an ideal patient avatar, and reconciling business risk with a conservative personality
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Jennifer Stewart, OD. Jen joins me on the show today to talk through her journey launching her tepid start practice, Look New Canaan. I’ve had Jen on the show multiple times in the past, and this was admittedly one of my more enjoyable conversations with a podcast guest. Maybe it’s because it was live, or maybe it’s because Jen’s passion for this profession is so, well…passionate. But we hit on so many amazing and pointed topics that I would challenge any listener to NOT find at least one actionable or...
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Increasing optical revenue by rethinking--from buying to selling--your frame management with Kayla Ashlee of Spexy
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is . Kayla joins me live on location at IDOC Connection 2024 to talk all things optical. Optical is admittedly an area of practice management that has always been intriguing because of the retail component—I feel like there are a lot of “retail 101” lessons that we can take from how other retailers manage their business. While practice owners may not have the multi-million dollar IT and inventory management systems that large, big-box retailers have, Kayla illustrate why it doesn’t take an incredible amount of...
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Using Medical Virtual Assistants in your practice to increase efficiency (and profitability) with Dr. Adam Ramsey, OD
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Adam Ramsey, OD, representing . In this episode, we talk about the role that a virtual medical assistant can play in your practice’s patient flow and how to think about the changes that you’d have to make in your practice for this to be a viable option. Adam provides a list of responsibilities that they’re doing in his practice and how he thinks through capacity for this person while ultimately striving to deliver the best experience for his patients. As a reminder, you can get all the information discussed...
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Hiring an associate full time vs easing into it: the discussion, numbers, and mindset for optometry practice owners with Nathan Hayes
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Nathan Hayes from IDOC. Nathan joins me back on the show to discuss and dialogue about the two basic ways practice owners can think about the way in which they hire associates for their practice: easing into it by bringing them into the practice gradually or proactively planning ahead by stockpiling cash in the practice and thus then “making the leap” by hiring an associate full-time—and then intentionally stewarding the practice to success by ensuring profitability in as timely manner as practicable for the...
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A pay structure that works for optometry partnerships with Kurt Steele, OD
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Kurt Steele, OD. Kurt joins me back on the show to talk in further detail how he and his partners have structured their compensation structure in a way that works for everyone in the practice while also ensuring that there is parity in comp based on the amount of revenue that each of them collect for the work they do clinically in the practice. He shares the details and formula he uses and we run a couple of hypothetical examples to show how the numbers work out for each partner. He also shares how he uses operational...
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How a hyper-effective, right-fit team can increase your profitability: a follow up convo with Dr. Mike Neal, OD
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Mike Neal, OD. Mike is the founder of a number of different businesses, include a primary care practice in PA called and , an effective outsourced hiring system for eyecare that does not use resumes. Mike joins me back on the show to provide additional context and clarity around the numbers that he shared on the first episode, proving/dispelling the naysayers out there about the margins of his practice. This episode admittedly went long, but I really believe it's packed with a lot of great insight for practice owners....
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Reconciling a successful succession plan with a growing practice with Dr. Kurt Steele, OD
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Kurt Steele, OD. Kurt is one of the owners of Precision Eyecare, a member of the Vision Source Network, in Newport, TN and also the founder of , a consulting firm to help ODs unlock the potential in their practice. Kurt joins me on the show today to talk through the unique and successful way that he has married the growth of his practice into the succession planning considerations that he wanted to have in place to ensure continuity of the practice to the next generation of ODs. We talk through a hypothetical example...
info_outlineHello 20/20 Money community, welcome to a “holiday week repeat.” Given that this episode is coming out on Memorial Day, I wanted to hold off on releasing a new episode and bring back a recent episode that seems to have struck a nerve with practice owners, and that’s the importance of practice owners “defining your number.” I had this conversation with Nathan Hayes from IDOC.
We’re defining “your number” as the amount of money that one should be saving to build towards financial independence. We talk about why banking on the sale of your practice usually leaves practice owners coming up short. We talk about the other side of that equation and how empowering it can be to know your number and thus be more convicted in the sale price you need to earn when you sell your practice. Nathan also allows me to indulge in a (somewhat) long-winded metaphor that connects flying, sailing, and retirement planning all into one story.
As a reminder, you can get all the information discussed in today’s conversation by visiting our website at integratedpwm.com and clicking on the Learning Center. While there, you can also set up a 20-30min Triage conversation to learn a little bit more about how we help ODs around the country use their practice as a wealth building vehicle, manage cash flow, align purpose with action, and make proactive money decisions.
And with that introduction, I hope you enjoy this holiday repeat conversation with Nathan Hayes, I hope you have/had an enjoyable Memorial Day holiday weekend, and I appreciate your support of the show.
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