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SEO Agency Survival Guide: Thriving Amid Google Updates and AI Disruption with Steven Schneider [Ep.172]

Empire Flippers Podcast

Release Date: 01/21/2025

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When many entrepreneurs go to sell their business, they’re more focused on their business than on the buyer. Understanding how buyers approach an acquisition, particularly when it comes to funding and deal structure, can help you position your business for the most profitable exit. In this episode of The Opportunity podcast, Greg breaks down how buyers actually think when evaluating an acquisition and why financing plays such a critical role in deal outcomes. While sellers often fixate on valuation, buyers are just as focused on how they will pay for the business and how much risk they are...

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The Before & After Formula [Ep.194] show art The Before & After Formula [Ep.194]

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If you know exactly what problems your customers face before and after they buy from you, you could build offers that practically sell themselves.In this episode, Greg breaks down his simple but powerful “before and after” formula. It starts by understanding the before: the frustrations, questions, and roadblocks your customers face long before they make a purchase. Solve that, and you earn the sale. But once you’ve solved it, new problems appear, and that’s your opportunity to build trust, add value, and guide customers deeper into your ecosystem. We also look at how to map the...

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Your revenue may be rising… but your business value might not be. And for founders planning an exit, that’s the only number that matters. In this week’s podcast, Greg is joined by Mark Osborne, author of Are Your Leads Killing Your Business? and one of the only Certified Exit Planning Advisors focused specifically on sales and marketing.  Mark breaks down the most common exit-planning mistakes founders make long before they think about selling. We dive into why sales, marketing, and customer success shouldn’t operate as silos, but as a single value-building engine, plus the...

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SEO has always been a powerful way to drive online traffic, but with the rise of AI and Google algorithm updates, the game has shifted.

So how do SEO agencies combat these new challenges and remain relevant?

Steven Schneider, co-founder of TrioSEO, believes the secret is sticking to the fundamentals, and honing in what you’re good at.

In this episode, Steven shares why he’s still a big believer in SEO, how he’s adapted his agency to make the most of modern SEO, and how AI has reshaped online traffic.

Steven also gives actionable tips on protecting your site from Google algorithm updates, explaining that quality content should be your top priority. He also explains that SEO is a marathon, not a sprint. According to Steven, 

 Everyone's trying to shave off time in SEO, but that's not how it works.  SEO is a game of delayed gratification. The strategy is to build something that will last for years. And if you're thinking in months and weeks, you're already upside down from the get-go.”

Whether you’re running an SEO agency or looking to boost your site’s performance, this episode is packed with practical advice and strategies you can start using today.

Topics Discussed in this episode:

  • Steven’s background and how he ended up in online business (02:05)
  • Narrowing down a target audience for your agency (15:03)
  • Why Steven focused heavily on content through his agency (18:35)
  • How Steven vets his white label partners (20:54)
  • Why communication is key to an agency’s success (23:36)
  • Is SEO enough for most companies or is omnichannel the way to go? (32:24)
  • SEO best practices to shield yourself from Google algorithm updates (34:33)
  • How AI is affecting search (38:24)
  • How Steven has incorporated AI as a tool in his business (44:19)
  • How to maintain good quality traffic from Google despite AI (46:27)

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