Anu Hariharan: You Can't Build With Managers - Outside Insights
Release Date: 02/22/2023
How to Do Diligence Confidently (Ep. 5)
Permanent Podcast: Real Talk About Private Equity and Buying, Selling, and Operating Small Businesses
Emily Holdman and David Cover walk through how to use the Diligence resources found at permanentequity.com and why we hope this project helps more sellers navigate the diligence process confidently. THIS PODCAST IS ACCOMPANIED BY MORE DILIGENCE RESOURCES at: CONNECT Want to connect with Permanent Equity? Sign up for a new daily newsletter from Tim Hanson, Unqualified Opinions: Follow founder & CEO Brent Beshore on X Sign up for our newsletter for operators, Permanent Playbook: Visit for more TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Most People Will Only Navigate Diligence...
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Building Your Diligence Team (Do Diligence Confidently Ep. 4)
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Diligence requires a team effort. In Episode 4 of Do Diligence Confidently: Navigating the Due Diligence Process to a Deal, Emily Holdman and Taylor Hall give tips for how to assemble your team internally and how to hire external support from intermediaries and lawyers. THIS PODCAST IS ACCOMPANIED BY MORE DILIGENCE RESOURCES at: CONNECT Want to connect with Permanent Equity? Sign up for a new daily newsletter from Tim Hanson, Unqualified Opinions: Follow founder & CEO Brent Beshore on X Sign up for our newsletter for operators, Permanent Playbook: Visit for...
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The Process: From First Call to Close (Do Diligence Confidently Ep. 3)
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In Episode 3 of Do Diligence Confidnetly: Navigating the Due Diligence Process to a Deal, Emily Holdman and Tim Hanson explain what the process of entering into a partnership with Permanent Equity looks like from the introductory call to close. THIS PODCAST IS ACCOMPANIED BY MORE DILIGENCE RESOURCES at: CONNECT Listen to the podcast David mentions on “How to Sell A Business in 2023” Want to start a conversation with Permanent Equity? Sign up for a new daily newsletter from Tim Hanson, Unqualified Opinions: Follow founder & CEO Brent Beshore on X Sign up...
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Navigating Due Diligence to a Deal (Do Diligence Confidently Ep. 2)
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Due diligence done right is about building relationships while building the deal. In Episode 2 of Do Diligence Confidnetly: Navigating the Due Diligence Process to a Deal, Taylor Hall and Tim Hanson explain to David Cover and Sarah George-Waterfield the purpose of diligence, why Permanent Equity approaches it with a posture of being helpful, and why problems found in diligence don’t have to be deal killers. THIS PODCAST IS ACCOMPANIED BY MORE DILIGENCE RESOURCES at: CONNECT Want to start a coversation with Permanent Equity? Sign up for a new daily newsletter from Tim Hanson,...
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We've Open-Sourced Our Diligence Process (Do Diligence Confidently Ep. 1)
Permanent Podcast: Real Talk About Private Equity and Buying, Selling, and Operating Small Businesses
Due diligence is intense. But it doesn’t have to be mysterious or a gotcha game. In Episode 1 of Do Diligence Confidnetly: Navigating the Due Diligence Process to a Deal, Tim Hanson and David Cover share why Permanent Equity has open-sourced their diligence process and introduce some of the topics and resources to help sellers and investors navigate diligence confidently. THIS PODCAST IS ACCOMPANIED BY MORE DILIGENCE RESOURCES at: CONNECT Want to connect with Permanent Equity? Sign up for a new daily newsletter from Tim Hanson, Unqualified Opinions: Follow founder &...
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John Marsh: Understanding People - Outside Insights
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John Marsh (Marsh Collective, Redemptification Podcast) cares deeply about people. It’s behind his obsession with restoring irreplaceable real estate in small towns across the Southeast, helping couples rebuild marriages and lives, and connecting individuals with each other and with work that fulfills them and fits their talents and ambitions. John talks with Brent Beshore about how his deep care for and commitment to people (and the long journey it took to get there) has affected how he thinks about life, relationships, hiring people, planning projects, and building teams. LINKS...
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Bill D'Alessandro: The Hard Thing(s) About HoldCos - Outside Insights
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Why did one of the biggest holdco owners & operators sell his holdco? Bill D’Alessandro talks about what led to the decision to sell all but one of his companies, having to let go of being “the Holdco Guy,” advice for entrepreneurs thinking about operating & owning multiple companies, insights on online marketing, & how he sees AI changing the world forever. LINKS & MENTIONS FROM THIS EPISODE Bill’s Natural Dog Company Acquisitions Anonymous podcast Join the list for Main Street Summit Read the Messy Marketplace (or go to episode 1 of the Permanent...
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Brett Hagler: Building A New Story - Outside Insights
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What would it look like to approach solving global homelessness with the same spirit of disruption & innovation as a cutting-edge tech start-up? Brett Halger (Co-Founder & CEO of New Story) joins Brent Beshore & David Cover to discuss how New Story is doing just that with 3D printed homes, web3, and experimental tech ventures – and why they are disrupting themselves to create a whole new model and market that increase home supply and provide better access to home ownership. Plus insights on how to scale a company, the best way to solve complex problems, how to make big changes to an...
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Permanent Equity's Hiring Playbook
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What’s your hiring process? Kelie Morgan, Director of Talent Acquisition at Permanent Equity, shares the 8-step hiring playbook she developed to find and hire great talent at the firm and our portfolio companies. Learn how to attract talent more efficiently, screen candidates more thoroughly, and conduct interviews most effectively – and why the most important part of the process might be the part you didn’t plan for. LINKS & MENTIONS FROM THIS EPISODE Connect with Kelie on twitter Connect with Kelie on LinkedIn Visit for more TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 0:31 What Would You...
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Claire Hughes Johnson: Scaling People - Outside Insights
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Claire Hughes Johnson (Google, Stripe) discusses her new book Scaling People: Tactics for Management and Company Building. Claire talks about why she thinks vulnerability is so powerful, the pitfalls of transparency in leadership, how to build systems by building trust, and the difference between management and leadership. LINKS & MENTIONS FROM THIS EPISODE “Scaling People” by Claire Hughes Johnson Read “The Messy Marketplace” by Brent Beshore Listen to “The Messy Marketplace” (episode 1 of the Permanent Podcast feed) Claire mentions “Bury My Heart at...
info_outlineCompanies don’t stay small on purpose. So how can you scale faster? Anu Hariharan (Gusto, Instacart) discusses the growing pains of going from start-up to success, how to grow as a builder and a manager, the importance of ruthless prioritization, and shares new technologies to help SMBs unlock their operations, and customer support.
LINKS & MENTIONS FROM THIS EPISODE
Tech to help SMBs:
Brex https://www.brex.com
Stripe Atlas https://stripe.com/atlas
Gusto https://gusto.com/product
Amplitude https://amplitude.com
Mix Panel https://mixpanel.com
Live Flow https://www.liveflow.io
Keeper https://www.keeper.app
Plan Grid https://construction.autodesk.com/products/autodesk-plangrid-build/
Mutiny https://www.mutinyhq.com
Canva https://www.canva.com/
Other Mentions by Anu:
DoorDash https://www.doordash.com
Faire https://www.faire.com
NVIDIA https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/
Boom https://boomsupersonic.com
Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System by Satoshi Nakamoto https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
CONNECT
Learn more about Anu’s role as Managing Director of YC Continuity Fund https://www.ycombinator.com/continuity
Anu on twitter https://twitter.com/anuhariharan
Anu on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/anuhariharan/
Brent on twitter https:/https://twitter.com/BrentBeshore
Brent on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/brentbeshore
David on twitter https://twitter.com/DavidACover
David on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-cover-318752230/
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Who Is Anu?
5:00 This One Time at Capital Camp
6:19 Characteristics of a Successful Founder
11:01 The Two Stages of Scaling
13:02 Biggest Mistakes Founders Make
17:12 Hiring From the Outside vs Internal Development
20:37 Learning How to Deal with People
20:04 Builders vs Managers
27:16 How to Hire a Builder
30:39 Why Do Companies Fail?
32:35 What Silicon Valley Has Lost
34:51 Dealing With Stress
37:22 What it Takes to Succeed
40:47 Helpful Tech for SMB
46:54 Emerging Technology
48:33 Lightning Round Hariharan Hot Takes
60:43 How to Win in 2023 and Beyond
64:24 What Drives You
66:36 Where We're Going
68:01 Legal Disclaimer
EPISODE CREDITS
Produced by David Cover
Intro music by David Cover, Andy Freeman, Rhett Johnson, & Andrew Luley
Outro music by Jees Guy
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