324. Emily Baker-White with Steve Scher: The War Over TikTok
Town Hall Seattle Arts & Culture Series
Release Date: 01/15/2026
Town Hall Seattle Arts & Culture Series
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You’re likely aware of the ongoing saga surrounding the ban on TikTok in the U.S., including the platform’s brief offline period in January 2025. Have you ever wondered why restoring TikTok in the U.S. was one of the first actions President Trump took when he came to office? Why is this social media platform a top priority for some of the world’s most powerful people? How did this tech giant become so wildly popular and a source of contention in international politics? Author of Every Screen on the Planet, Emily Baker-White, uncovers the answers.
After working within big tech companies’ policy departments, Harvard-trained lawyer and investigative journalist Emily Baker-White has now focused on how platforms like TikTok influence the world around us. In her book, she charts TikTok’s rise from the Chinese founders’ ambitions to its emergence as the world’s most valuable startup with 1.6 billion users worldwide. Its power––and potential surveillance and propaganda tool for strongmen––came to a dramatic crescendo with its ban and tenuous resurrection in January 2025.
Hear about the explosive reporting that actually caused TikTok to track Baker-White and led to an ongoing criminal investigation. Baker-White makes the case for how hawks in Congress have pushed the company to the brink while the U.S. government seeks backdoor access to observe and influence TikTok’s data stream. Touching on politics, finance, business, and technology, she lays bare the stakes: The war for TikTok will either create a blueprint for autocrats to warp our information landscape or close the open internet as we know it.
Emily Baker-White is a technology reporter at Forbes, where her TikTok coverage has won awards. A Harvard Law School graduate and former criminal defender, she previously led the Plain View Project, an investigation into police misconduct on Facebook, and covered TikTok for BuzzFeed News.
Steve Scher is a writer, broadcaster, and interviewer. His children’s book, The Moon Bear, came out in 2022. Over his 28 years on local public radio, he won awards for his incisive coverage of public affairs, breaking news and his beyond-the-headlines approach to issues. His in-depth interviews with award-winning authors, political leaders, scientists, artists and active citizens are noted for their intelligence and sensitivity. Most summers since 2009, he has taught a Communications Department class on interviewing at the University of Washington.
