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A CISO's Perspective on AI, Appsec, and Changing Behaviors - ASW #293

Application Security Weekly (Audio)

Release Date: 07/30/2024

DefectDojo and Bringing Quality Appsec Tools to Small Appsec Teams - Greg Anderson - ASW #312 show art DefectDojo and Bringing Quality Appsec Tools to Small Appsec Teams - Greg Anderson - ASW #312

Application Security Weekly (Audio)

All appsec teams need quality tools and all developers benefit from appsec guidance that's focused on meaningful results. Greg Anderson shares his experience in bringing the OWASP DefectDojo project to life and maintaining its value for over a decade. He reminds us that there are tons of appsec teams with low budgets and few members that need tools to help them bring useful insights to developers. Segment Resources: Three-quarters of CISOs surveyed reported being "overwhelmed" by the growing number of tools and their alerts: As many as one-fifth of all cybersecurity alerts turn out to be...

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Applying Usability and Transparency to Security - Hannah Sutor - ASW #311 show art Applying Usability and Transparency to Security - Hannah Sutor - ASW #311

Application Security Weekly (Audio)

Practices around identity and managing credentials have improved greatly since the days of infosec mandating 90-day password rotations. But those improvements didn't arise from a narrow security view. Hannah Sutor talks about the importance of balancing security with usability, the importance of engaging with users when determining defaults, and setting an example for transparency in security disclosures. Segment resources Curl's oldest bug yet, RCPs (and more!) from AWS re:Invent, possible controls for NPM's malware proliferation, insights and next steps on protecting top 500 packages from...

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Looking Back on 2024 - ASW #310 show art Looking Back on 2024 - ASW #310

Application Security Weekly (Audio)

We do our usual end of year look back on the topics, news, and trends that caught our attention. We covered some OWASP projects, the ongoing attention and promises of generative AI, and big events from the XZ Utils backdoor to Microsoft's Recall to Crowdstrike's outage. Segment resources Curl and Python (and others) deal with bad vuln reports generated by LLMs, supply chain attack on Solana, comparing 5 genAI mistakes to OWASP's Top Ten for LLM Applications, a Rust survey, and more! Visit for all the latest episodes! Show Notes:

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Adding Observability with OpenTelemetry - Adriana Villela - ASW #309 show art Adding Observability with OpenTelemetry - Adriana Villela - ASW #309

Application Security Weekly (Audio)

Observability is a lot more than just sprinkling printf statements throughout a code base. Adriana Villela explains principles behind logging, traceability, and metrics and how the OpenTelemetry project helps developers gather this useful information. She also provides suggestions on starting logging from scratch, how to avoid information overload, and how engaging users about their experience with solutions like OpenTelemetry makes for better software -- a lesson that appsec teams can apply to paved roads and security guardrails. Segment Resources: Fuzzing barcodes and getting projects...

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Biometric Frontiers: Unlocking The Future Of Engagement - Andras Cser, Enza Iannopollo - ASW #308 show art Biometric Frontiers: Unlocking The Future Of Engagement - Andras Cser, Enza Iannopollo - ASW #308

Application Security Weekly (Audio)

This week's interview dives deep into the state of biometrics with two Forrester Research analysts! This discussion compares and contrasts regional approaches to biometrics; examine the security challenges and benefits of their implementation; and reveal how biometrics holds the keys to a range of engagement models of the future. Andras Cser dives into the technical end of things and explains how biometrics can be resilient to attack. We can't replace our fingerprints or faces, but as Andras explains, there's no need to, thanks to how biometrics actually work. Then, Enza takes us through the...

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Modernizing AppSec - Melinda Marks - ASW #307 show art Modernizing AppSec - Melinda Marks - ASW #307

Application Security Weekly (Audio)

In this week's interview, Melinda Marks' joins us to discuss her latest research. Her recent report delves into many aspects and trends affecting AppSec as it matures, particularly in cloud-first organizations. We also discuss the fuzzy line between "cloud-native" AppSec and everything else that refuses to disappear, particularly for organizations that weren't born cloud-native and still have legacy workloads to worry about. Integrating security into the SDLC and CI/CD pipelines, infrastructure as code (IaC) trends, best of breed vs platform, and other aspects of AppSec get discussed as well!...

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Bug bounties, vulnerability disclosure, PTaaS, fractional pentesting - Grant McCracken - ASW #306 show art Bug bounties, vulnerability disclosure, PTaaS, fractional pentesting - Grant McCracken - ASW #306

Application Security Weekly (Audio)

After spending a decade working for appsec vendors, Grant McKracken wanted to give something back. He saw a gap in the market for free or low-cost services for smaller organizations that have real appsec needs, but not a lot of means to pay for it. He founded DarkHorse, who offers VDPs and bug bounties to organizations of all sizes for free, or for as low of cost as possible. While not a non-profit, the company's goal is to make these services as cheap as possible to increase accessibility for smaller or more budget-constrained organizations. The company has also introduced the concept of...

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Making TLS More Secure, Lessons from IPv6, LLMs Finding Vulns - Arnab Bose, Shiven Ramji - ASW #305 show art Making TLS More Secure, Lessons from IPv6, LLMs Finding Vulns - Arnab Bose, Shiven Ramji - ASW #305

Application Security Weekly (Audio)

Better TLS implementations with Rust, fuzzing, and managing certs, appsec lessons from the everlasting transition to IPv6, LLMs for finding vulns (and whether fuzzing is better), and more! Also check out this presentation from BSides Knoxville that we talked about briefly, Generative AI has been the talk of the technology industry for the past 18+ months. Companies are seeing its value, so generative AI budgets are growing. With more and more AI agents expected in the coming years, it’s essential that we are securing how consumers interact with generative AI agents and how developers build...

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The Complexities, Configurations, and Challenges in Cloud Security - Scott Piper - ASW #304 show art The Complexities, Configurations, and Challenges in Cloud Security - Scott Piper - ASW #304

Application Security Weekly (Audio)

Building cloud native apps doesn't mean you're immune to dealing with legacy systems. Cloud services have changed significantly over the last decade, both in the security controls available to them and the sheer volume of services that CSPs provide. Scott Piper shares some history of cloud security, the benefits of account separation, and how ratcheting security helps orgs stay on a paved path. Segment resources: Flaws that arise from inconsistent parsing of JSON and email addresses, CISA's guide to bad software practices, abusing a security disclosure process to take over a WordPress...

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The Future of Zed Attack Proxy - Simon Bennetts, Ori Bendet - ASW #302 show art The Future of Zed Attack Proxy - Simon Bennetts, Ori Bendet - ASW #302

Application Security Weekly (Audio)

Zed Attack Proxy has been a crucial web app testing tool for decades. It's also had a struggle throughout 2024 to obtain funding that would enable the tool to add more features while remaining true to its open source history. Simon Bennetts, founder of ZAP, and Ori Bendet from Checkmarx update us on that journey, share some exploration of LLM fuzzing that ZAP has been working on, and what the future looks like for this well-loved project. Segment Resources: KICS: 2MS: The many lessons to take away from a 24-year old flaw in glibc and the mastery in crafting an exploit in PHP, changing a...

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Modern appsec isn't modern because security tools got shifted in one direction or another, or because teams are finding and fixing more vulns. It's modern because appsec is meeting developer needs and supporting the business. Paul Davis talks about how AI is (and isn't) changing appsec, the KPIs that reflect outcomes rather than being busy, and the importance of communication for security teams.

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