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Secure Designs, UX Dragons, Vuln Dungeons - Jack Cable - ASW #328

Release Date: 04/29/2025

How OWASP's GenAI Security Project keeps up with the pace of AI/Agentic changes - Scott Clinton - ASW #348

Application Security Weekly (Audio)

This week, we chat with Scott Clinton, board member and co-chain of the OWASP GenAI Security Project. This project has become a massive organization within OWASP with hundreds of volunteers and thousands of contributors. This team has been cranking out new tools, reports and guidance for practitioners month after month for over a year now. We start off discussing how Scott and other leaders have managed to keep up with the crazy rate of change in the AI world. We pivot to discussing some of the specific projects the team is working on, and finally discuss some of the biggest AI security...

Limitations and Liabilities of LLM Coding - Seemant Sehgal, Ted Shorter - ASW #347

Application Security Weekly (Audio)

Up first, the ASW news of the week. At Black Hat 2025, Doug White interviews Ted Shorter, CTO of Keyfactor, about the quantum revolution already knocking on cybersecurity’s door. They discuss the terrifying reality of quantum computing’s power to break RSA and ECC encryption—the very foundations of modern digital life. With 2030 set as the deadline for transitioning away from legacy crypto, organizations face a race against time. Ted breaks down what "full crypto visibility" really means, why it’s crucial to map your cryptographic assets now, and how legacy tech—from robotic sawmills...

AI, APIs, and the Next Cyber Battleground: Black Hat 2025 - Chris Boehm, Idan Plotnik, Josh Lemos, Michael Callahan - ASW #346

Application Security Weekly (Audio)

In this must-see BlackHat 2025 interview, Doug White sits down with Michael Callahan, CMO at Salt Security, for a high-stakes conversation about Agentic AI, Model Context Protocol (MCP) servers, and the massive API security risks reshaping the cyber landscape. Broadcast live from the CyberRisk TV studio at Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas, the discussion pulls back the curtain on how autonomous AI agents and centralized MCP hubs could supercharge productivity—while also opening the door to unprecedented supply chain vulnerabilities. From “shadow MCP servers” to the concept of an “API fabric,”...

Translating Security Regulations into Secure Projects - Roman Zhukov, Emily Fox - ASW #345

Application Security Weekly (Audio)

The EU Cyber Resilience Act joins the long list of regulations intended to improve the security of software delivered to users. Emily Fox and Roman Zhukov share their experience education regulators on open source software and educating open source projects on security. They talk about creating a baseline for security that addresses technical items, maintaining projects, and supporting project owners so they can focus on their projects. Segment resources: github.com/ossf/wg-globalcyberpolicy github.com/orcwg baseline.openssf.org Visit for all the latest episodes! Show Notes:

Managing the Minimization of a Container Attack Surface - Neil Carpenter - ASW #344

Application Security Weekly (Audio)

A smaller attack surface should lead to a smaller list of CVEs to track, which in turn should lead to a smaller set of vulns that you should care about. But in practice, keeping something like a container image small has a lot of challenges in terms of what should be considered minimal. Neil Carpenter shares advice and anecdotes on what it takes to refine a container image and to change an org's expectations that every CVE needs to be fixed. Visit for all the latest episodes! Show Notes:

The Future of Supply Chain Security - Janet Worthington - ASW #343

Application Security Weekly (Audio)

Open source software is a massive contribution that provides everything from foundational frameworks to tiny single-purpose libraries. We walk through the dimensions of trust and provenance in the software supply chain with Janet Worthington. And we discuss how even with new code generated by LLMs and new terms like slopsquatting, a lot of the most effective solutions are old techniques. Resources Show Notes:

Uniting software development and application security - Will Vandevanter, Jonathan Schneider - ASW #342

Application Security Weekly (Audio)

Maintaining code is a lot more than keeping dependencies up to date. It involved everything from keeping old code running to changing frameworks to even changing implementation languages. Jonathan Schneider talks about the engineering considerations of refactoring and rewriting code, why code maintenance is important to appsec, and how to build confidence that adding automation to a migration results in code that has the same workflows as before. Resources Then, instead of our usual news segment, we do a deep dive on some recent vulns NVIDIA's Triton Inference Server disclosed by Trail of...

How Product-Led Security Leads to Paved Roads - Julia Knecht - ASW #341

Application Security Weekly (Audio)

A successful strategy in appsec is to build platforms with defaults and designs that ease the burden of security choices for developers. But there's an important difference between expecting (or requiring!) developers to use a platform and building a platform that developers embrace. Julia Knecht shares her experience in building platforms with an attention to developer needs, developer experience, and security requirements. She brings attention to the product management skills and feedback loops that make paved roads successful -- as well as the areas where developers may still need or choose...

Rise of Compromised LLMs - Sohrob Kazerounian - ASW #340

Application Security Weekly (Audio)

AI is more than LLMs. Machine learning algorithms have been part of infosec solutions for a long time. For appsec practitioners, a key concern is always going to be how to evaluate the security of software or a system. In some cases, it doesn't matter if a human or an LLM generated code -- the code needs to be reviewed for common flaws and design problems. But the creation of MCP servers and LLM-based agents is also adding a concern about what an unattended or autonomous piece of software is doing. Sohrob Kazerounian gives us context on how LLMs are designed, what to expect from them, and...

Getting Started with Security Basics on the Way to Finding a Specialization - ASW #339

Application Security Weekly (Audio)

What are some appsec basics? There's no monolithic appsec role. Broadly speaking, appsec tends to branch into engineering or compliance paths, each with different areas of focus despite having shared vocabularies and the (hopefully!) shared goal of protecting software, data, and users. The better question is, "What do you want to secure?" We discuss the Cybersecurity Skills Framework put together by the OpenSSF and the Linux Foundation and how you might prepare for one of its job families. The important basics aren't about memorizing lists or technical details, but demonstrating experience in...

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In this live recording from BSidesSF we explore the factors that influence a secure design, talk about how to avoid the bite of UX dragons, and why designs should put classes of vulns into dungeons.

But we can't threat model a secure design forever and we can't oversimplify guidance for a design to be "more secure". Kalyani Pawar and Jack Cable join the discussion to provide advice on evaluating secure designs through examples of strong and weak designs we've seen over the years. We highlight the importance of designing systems to serve users and consider what it means to have a secure design with a poor UX. As we talk about the strategy and tactics of secure design, we share why framing this as a challenge in preventing dangerous errors can help devs make practical engineering decisions that improve appsec for everyone.

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