Ep. 19: From fired to fearless & leading boldly, with Sarah Robb O'Hagan
Release Date: 06/09/2025
The Leadership Dance
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info_outlineIn this energizing conversation, powerhouse leader Sarah Robb O’Hagan—former executive at Nike, Gatorade, and Equinox, and author of Extreme You—shares insights from her bold career journey. Sarah opens up about the tough lessons she learned from early career failures, the power of resilience, and how embracing her authentic, “extreme” self led her to unlock new levels of leadership. Together, Alissa and Sarah explore what it means to lead with courage, create inclusive high-performance cultures, and why doing “hard things” is essential for growth. Whether you’re just starting out or leading at the top, this episode will leave you inspired to bring your boldest self to every room you enter. Tune in for the full episode to learn Sarah’s practical tips on how to perform under constant pressure.
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💡Key Takeaways:
As a leader, you have to invest in recovery just as much as preparation and performance.
The risk associated with bold moves is actually no more than the risk associated with playing it safe.
Be your “Extreme You” and embrace what makes you different and turn it into your superpower.
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Connect with Sarah:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-robb-o-hagan-249130/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/extremesro/
Website: https://www.sarahrobbohagan.com/
Course: https://maven.com/sarah-robb-o-hagan/the-breakout-leader
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