Scaling Product Organizations in the Age of AI with CallRail's Ryan Johnson
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Release Date: 11/06/2025
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info_outlineI am excited to have Ryan Johnson, who is the Chief Product Officer at CallRail, an AI-powered lead intelligence platform serving 200,000+ businesses with over $100M ARR.
In this conversation, Ryan Johnson, Chief Product Officer at CallRail, shares his journey from finance to product management, discussing the evolution of CallRail from a call tracking service to a lead intelligence platform. He emphasises the importance of scaling product organisations, balancing sales and product-led growth, and navigating the challenges posed by AI disruption. Ryan also delves into pricing strategies, monetisation challenges in B2B SaaS, and the significance of a cohesive engineering, product, and design team structure. He highlights the role of self-reported attribution in marketing and draws parallels between racing and product management, underscoring the need for incremental improvements and customer obsession.
Timestamps
03:30 Scaling Product Organizations: Lessons from Banjo
06:54 The Evolution of CallRail: From Call Tracking to Lead Intelligence
10:47 Balancing Sales and Product-Led Growth
13:12 AI Disruption in the Search Industry
15:53 Pricing Strategies in a Scaling Company
19:01 Challenges in Monetization and Standardization
22:44 Organizational Structure for Product Velocity
25:26 Agile Experimentation in AI-Enabled Organizations
26:16 Navigating Unit Economics in the Age of AI
28:45 Decisions That Drive Cost Efficiency
31:57 Product Strategy Across Different Stages
36:06 Balancing Partnerships and Product Simplicity
38:33 Solving Attribution Challenges with Conversation Intelligence
42:31 Racing Towards Product Market Fit
45:10 Reflections on Career Growth and Learning
Ryan’s Links
LDN/ X – https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryandjohnson/
Website –https://www.callrail.com/
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