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[TEASER] China Pt. 4: Unlearning Anti-China Propaganda w/ Li Jingjing

Release Date: 04/01/2025

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Living in a world dominated by the United States leaves us all with a lifetime of propaganda to unlearn. No matter what corner of the globe we’re in, we’re not immune to Western hegemony and the hard and soft power deployed to brainwash our minds, exploit our bodies, and destroy our cultures. But there are, despite the power of capitalist PR and commodity fetishism—alternative pathways. There are ways to unlearn the propaganda. And in today’s episode, we’re going to attempt to do just that: break at least some of the chains of imperialist propaganda when it comes to China.

Li Jingjing is a multimedia reporter at China Global Television Network, or CGTN, based in Beijing, China. And despite the scare-tactics of Mark Zuckerberg and our other tech overlords labeling her Instagram account as “China state-controlled media”—which is a real pot calling the kettle black moment as the oligarchs in the White House text their plans to bomb hospitals in Yemen to high-profile journalists—despite these red-scare labels applied to Li only meant to fearmonger and propagandize, Li’s social media is a breath of fresh air when it comes to unlearning Western propaganda on China.

In this conversation, Part 4 of our China series here on Patreon, we bring some Li’s shorter videos dispelling propaganda to you in a more longform way, starting with a conversation about her recent coverage of the National People's Congress and the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference, which we introduced in Part 2 of this series with Ken Hammond. Li explains to us how the political system in China works and what some of the policy outcomes of these conferences were before embarking on a fascinating conversation that weaves together personal anecdotes and stories with data and statistics to dismantle many of the myths we believe about China and which reveal a picture of a society that our warmongering policymakers and their lapdogs in the media don’t want you to know about.

Artwork: Chinese Communist Party propaganda poster commemorating the 60th anniversary of the founding of the party.

Further resources:

CGTN
Li Jingjing on Twitter, Instagram and Tiktok
Studies show strong public support for China’s political system, Jason Hickel
Ne Zha 2 (film)

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