2218 Responsible to What
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“If I’m not well, I don’t listen well, I can’t be curious well.” The enormity of injustice can keep the best of us from taking action if we don't slow down + notice what's needed right in front of us. Alfonso + Trina take 15 minutes to talk about how they come back to focusing on their own responsibilities + actions in organizing, activism, + work. They talk about not succumbing to helplessness + staying well enough to be effective.
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2217 Committees at Work
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“I like being a part of groups that know why they’re together and know how long they’re going to be together.” Our goal-focused hosts take an episode to talk about patterns around groups + committees in workplaces. When do folks form a group? Do they know their goals, how long they need to exist, who should be a part of the group? Alfonso + Trina share some examples of short + long-term committees inside Team Dynamics, plus they advise a few risks to watch out for.
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Rerun 2102 Insurrection + Truth + Action
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“It’s important to acknowledge that this wild stuff is happening. We cannot make it small. And we also don’t need to decide that the way we feel is how everyone else feels.” Alfonso + Trina talk about how they felt watching a white, militant insurrection at the United States Capitol. They share suggestions on how to hold space for processing national events + domestic terrorism for their workers. And they talk about the importance of telling the truth at work.
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2216 Pride Month Primer
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“It’s not important that we know all the words. What’s important is that when someone tells us what words they use we thank them and use those words for them, too.” It's Pride Month! Trina + Alfonso parse out Sexuality, Gender Identity, Gender Expression, + Biological Sex. They also speak into the inextricable linkage between race, gender, + sexuality. If your workplace is working to support your queer and BIPOC folks, we’re offering this as a refresher and primer for anyone who is curious about how to show up!
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2215 Fixation on Education
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“What we’re trying to trouble is the idea that there’s a singular way to get ready to do any particular job.” Trina + Alfonso talk about their own education + work backgrounds + then get into the actual impact had by having degree requirements included in job postings.
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2214 Where work happens
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“A bunch of the workplace norms we practice now in the US were developed in a time when we did very different work.” Our hosts dig into the current conversation around where people need to be in order to do their work. Mental health, care giving, access to consistent technology, + so many more things to consider when planning schedules. Why don’t we change behavior when we have data that tells us the way we’re doing things isn’t effective? Here are some questions to navigate that.
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2213 Ethnicity, Race, USA
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"There are times when a focus on ethnicity keeps us from understanding the unearned advantages that come with whiteness." Alfonso + Trina dive into how exploring ethnicity can bring tremendous advantages + disadvantages when doing intercultural capacity building work. They name how race + ethnicity mean different things in different countries while reminding us that race is tremendously impactful in the United States.
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2212 Roe, Abortion, + Work
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“What this would mean is that more people with uteruses are going to die because they don’t have access to safe abortions.” Trina + Alfonso respond to the leaked news suggesting that Roe v. Wade could be overturned by the US Supreme Court. They talk about navigating things that have been politicized without telling employees how to vote. Listen to our hosts talk about the vast impact of attempts to control the bodies + behaviors of people.
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Ep 2211 with Kelly Fluharty
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“How are we going to thread and embed equity principles?” Trina flys solo but welcomes in Kelly Fluharty to organizational change, equity, + Healthcare. Kelly brings her perspective as a white, middle-class woman working in healthcare in rural Minnesota to talk about how her organization fosters a belief in the possibility of change + how they do work that is org wide.
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2210 Meet Jovan Sage
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Trina + Alfonso welcome Jovan Sage onto the show. Jovan is a guide, healing facilitator, doula, alchemist, plant tender, medicine maker, and has deep experience organizing community. Sage talks about being Black, queer, & using ancestral growing practices in Savannah, GA. This episode features ideas about how folks can grow their own food, deepen their own self awareness, & learn past ways. Visit
info_outline"It’s not knowledge, it’s about the ability to think different and act differently."
Our co-hosts dig into why + how organizational change work is not about bystander training or a one off seminar to get you ready for every possible scenario. They share five core areas where we have to build muscle in order to build capacity.